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Church Clothes Vol2 | Rapping from non-Christian perspective?

Deon
May 28, 2014

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In response to my last post, many adoring fans came to Lecrae’s defense by stating that Lecrae made it clear that his album Church Clothes Vol2 was not based from Lecrae’s perspective but rather from an Unbelievers perspective.

Therefore the aim of this blog post is to provide evidence that clearly displays that this statement (made by both Lecrae and his fans) — is Inaccurate.

Lecrae Defends “Church Clothes” Lyrics

In an attempt to set the Record straight, the rapper Lecrae Moore issued a statement in which he insisted that the lyrics in his song was meant to highlight the hypocrisy in some christian churches — but not to attack them.

“Many people have seen the hypocrisy and inconsistencies that have helped push them away from the church and God all together”

He continued by stating that the “Church Clothes” title track was written from a non-believer’s perspective who may use the hypocrisy in the church as a reason to live sinfully.

“The goal wasn’t to condone this behavior or view; it was just to show the real attitude that people outside the church have,” said Lecrae.

He continued by displaying his lyrics as an artistic way to highlight the Hypocrisy of Christian churches that preach “Holiness” but yet are overrun with ungodliness.

lecrae-church-clothesChurch Clothes: Volume 2

In his latest mixtape, lecrae continues his artistic movement which is supposedly from a non believers perspective. Here is the Track-listing…

  1. “Co-Sign PT. 2”
  2. “Believe”
  3. “Devil In Disguise” f. Kevin Ross
  4. “The Fever” f. Andy Mineo & Papa San
  5. “I’m Turnt”
  6. “Let It Whip” f. Paul Wall (secular)
  7. “Sell Out”
  8. “Lost My Way” f. King Mez & Daniel Day
  9. “Misconception” PART. 2 f. W.L.A.K.
  10. “Round of Applause” f. B.o.B. (secular)
  11. “Was It Worth It” f. Derek Minor & Crystal Nicole
  12. “Bun B Speaks” (secular)
  13. “Finer Things” f. Tedashii
  14. “Hands Up” f. Propaganda
  15. “My Whole Life Changed”
  16. “If I Die Tonight” f. Novel
  17. “Hang On”

Although Lecrae has made it clear that his entire “Church Clothes” series is not from his own perspective — the lyrics in some of his songs would suggest otherwise.

lecrae1Here is an Excerpt from his song “Church Clothes” which was on his Volume1 mixtape…

Some of these folks won’t tell the truth
Too busy try’na get them racks man
Church try’na rob my paychecks
Choir members probably having gay sex

Pastor manipulatin‘ hurtin’ women
I wonder which he’s gon’ slay next
Bookstore pimpin’ them hope books
Like God don’t know how broke looks
And telling me that I’m gon’ reap a mil’
If I sow into these low crooks
Plus I know ol’ girl a freak
And how she singin’ a solo

I walked in the church wit a snapback
And they tellin’ me that that’s a “no-no”?
That’s backwards, and I lack words
For these actors called pastors
ALL these folks is hypocrites
And that’s why I ain’t at church

Now although many people may consider these lyrics degrading to Christianity as a whole — Lecrae has made it clear that this is not his personal thinking, but rather this is him simply speaking from the perspective of someone who is not saved.

Now lets examine the very next excerpt that follows this verse that is allegedly an “Artistic approach” of displaying the thoughts of a non-christian against the church.

Truthfully I’m just doin’ me
And I don’t wanna face no scrutiny
As long as the church keep wildin’ out
I can justify all my foolish deeds
Smoking weed, pourin’ up
Keep that lean up in my cup
Maybe I could change the world
But this porn on my laptop got me stuck
Yeah I know what’s right from wrong
But that there ain’t gon sell a song
I rather sell my soul then save it
If that’s what make my money long

Hold on — something is not adding up. After reading the second half of this verse, I can’t help but wonder the following…

  1. Why would a non-christian face Scrutiny from Christians?
  2. Why would a non-christian need to Justify their actions?
  3. Why would a non-christian be concerned with “Selling a Song”?

Although Lecrae claims that this song was written from a non-christian perspective, his verse contradicts his own statement.

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Why Scrutinize a Non-Christian?

The first problem is that Lecrae (speaking from a non-christian view) states that he doesn’t want to face scrutiny from Christians. But since when has the Bible directed Christians to go out into the world and scrutinize non-Christians? There are far too many non-Christians in the world for Christians to even fathom doing such a thing. The only “Scrutiny” (or rebuke) that takes is amongst those who claim the name of Christ.

(1 Corinthians 5:9)  In the letter that I wrote you I told you not to associate with immoral people.

(1 Corinthians 5:10)  Now I did not mean pagans who are immoral or greedy or are thieves, or who worship idols. To avoid them you would have to get out of the world completely.

(1 Corinthians 5:11)  What I meant was that you should not associate with a person who calls himself a believer but is immoral or greedy or worships idols or is a slanderer or a drunkard or a thief. Don’t even sit down to eat with such a person.

(1 Corinthians 5:12)  After all, it is none of my business to judge outsiders. God will judge them. But should you not judge the members of your own fellowship? As the scripture says, “Remove the evil person from your group.”

Why would Non-Christians Justify their Actions to Christians?

Now this verse truly had me puzzled. I find it hard to believe that a non-believer would have to Justify their foolish actions using the hypocrisy of the church as their main argument. Why would they need to Justify their actions to the church when they would care less about what the church thinks?

Lecrae on 106&Park

Who is selling the Song?

Finally, the smoking gun.

Why would a non-believer be focused on selling a song? Is he an artist as well? It would also seem that this “non-Christian” artist is facing a moral struggle regarding the content of his Lyrics.

“Yeah I know whats Right and Wrong
But that there ain’t gon sell a song”

Lecrae claims that he is speaking from a non-christian’s perspective, not his own — yet with each line, this “non-christian” person that he is speaking for is beginning to look more and more like himself.

Here is another snippet from his mixtape titled “Co-sign pt.2” featuring the secular artist Kendrick Lamar

Leaking out that syntax
Never left but I been back
Cross on my big-knack
And I don’t rap Gospel, I live that
But I’m nothin’ but a gimmick?
You Seen me in a club?
hmm-Funny, you was in it?
Skip a co-sign shout out to the homey Kendrick
And all I hear is crickets
When I run into the critics

Wait just one second – It would seem that Lecrae has forgotten that his “Church Clothes” mixtapes (both Volumes 1&2) are supposed to be from the perspective of a non-Christian.

Why would a non-christian say that they are Living the Gospel?

It seems apparent that many of Lecrae’s songs contradict the statement made by him regarding these mixtapes being from a non-Christian angle.
(Unless that non-Christian angle is his own.)

The Best of Both Worlds

In an attempt to gather fans from both sides of the fence, Lecrae has altered his music to appease both audiences (Christians & Non-Christians).

Although his songs contain references to Clubs, Weed, Alcohol, Twerking to appeal to the secular audience — Lecrae has also cleverly “Laced” his music with strings and snippets of Christian concepts as an attempt to keep his Christian audience “Tagging along” as well.

Lecrae claims that he is trying to bridge the Gap between the 2 world’s — between Secular and the Christian music.But Is Lecrae desperately trying to bridge a gap that God purposely created?

(2 Corinthians 6:14)  “Be not unequally yoked with unbelievers: for what fellowship have righteousness and iniquity? or what communion hath light with darkness?

(2 Corinthians 6:15)  And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what portion hath a believer with an unbeliever?

(2 Corinthians 6:16)  And what agreement hath a temple of God with idols? for we are a temple of the living God; even as God said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

(2 Corinthians 6:17)  Wherefore Come ye out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, And touch no unclean thing; And I will receive you,

(2 Corinthians 6:18)  And will be to you a Father, And ye shall be to me sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.”

To The Reader:

What are your Thoughts?

Some of these folks won’t tell the truth
Too busy try’na get them racks man
Church try’na rob my paychecks
Choir members probably having gay sex

Pastor manipulatin‘ hurtin’ women
I wonder which he’s gon’ slay next
Bookstore pimpin’ them hope books
Like God don’t know how broke looks
And telling me that I’m gon’ reap a mil’
If I sow into these low crooks
Plus I know ol’ girl a freak
And how she singin’ a solo

I walked in the church wit a snapback
And they tellin’ me that that’s a “no-no”?
That’s backwards, and I lack words
For these actors called pastors
ALL these folks is hypocrites
And that’s why I ain’t at church

– See more at: http://deonvsearth.com/i-rather-sell-my-soul-then-save-it-he-says-lecrae-leaves-the-church/#sthash.f2IXv6D9.dpuf

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  • Benjamin Mariano

    Oh my word—you’ve never written creatively, have you?

    He’s writing from a theoretical point of view where he borrows the observances a non-Christian makes and gets defensive about and places them in his own situation. He takes the ISSUES non-believers have with hypocrisy and places his own persona as a Christian rapper in the critiquing mindset of the non-believers.

    Like, imagine, if I wrote a song about the way someone with a drug problem feels about people who judge them, but have their own obvious and comparable vices, (so like, one’s father scolds them for smoking weed but then goes out and gets drunk), and I wrote in the perspective of a drug user, but also, as a “non-druggie” Christian singer, I apply this concept to my own life, extrapolating what I might feel if I was the one using drugs with an alcoholic father but in my life as a Christian singer. Make sense? Just because I wrote that song, would it mean I really am a drug user? No.

    You didn’t “prove” he’s lying about the POV of Church Clothes, you just proved you are a literalist who can’t help but twist the “proof” to fit what you’ve already decided you believe about Lecrae’s intentions.

    • dlundy1

      Thanks for your comment.

      I can tell that you are a big fan of lecrae by your illogical defense to such a blatantly obvious change of course in Music. Lecrae clearly stated that he no longer wishes to be known as a “Christian Rapper”, but instead just a “Rapper”.

      If he desires to separate Christ from his Title, then wouldn’t it only make sense to separate it from his music?

      Yet you still claim that he is rapping from the Christian perspective of a NON-christian….

      Interesting.

  • Benjamin Mariano

    Oh my word—you’ve never written creatively, have you?

    He’s writing from a theoretical point of view where he borrows the observances a non-Christian makes and gets defensive about and places them in his own situation. He takes the ISSUES non-believers have with hypocrisy and places his own persona as a Christian rapper in the critiquing mindset of the non-believers.

    Like, imagine, if I wrote a song about the way someone with a drug problem feels about people who judge them, but have their own obvious and comparable vices, (so like, one’s father scolds them for smoking weed but then goes out and gets drunk), and I wrote in the perspective of a drug user, but also, as a “non-druggie” Christian singer, I apply this concept to my own life, extrapolating what I might feel if I was the one using drugs with an alcoholic father but in my life as a Christian singer. Make sense? Just because I wrote that song, would it mean I really am a drug user? No.

    You didn’t “prove” he’s lying about the POV of Church Clothes, you just proved you are a literalist who can’t help but twist the “proof” to fit what you’ve already decided you believe about Lecrae’s intentions.

    • dlundy1

      Thanks for your comment.

      I can tell that you are a big fan of lecrae by your illogical defense to such a blatantly obvious change of course in Music. Lecrae clearly stated that he no longer wishes to be known as a “Christian Rapper”, but instead just a “Rapper”.

      If he desires to separate Christ from his Title, then wouldn’t it only make sense to separate it from his music?

      Yet you still claim that he is rapping from the Christian perspective of a NON-christian….

      Interesting.

      • JesusBeaFence

        Ok. I myself am an artist. I identify with indy although I am Christian and so is my music. However I’d rather one sinner buy my album than a thousand Christians. THAT sir is what Mr Moore is doing. Its not selling out. Actually Christians are GUARANTEED to buy a Christian artist’s album. What sinner will go into family Christian and buy Lecrae’s music? When a non believer sees the title ‘Christian’, it puts them off.The disciples took the gospel out to the Gentiles. They didn’t just stay behind the walls. In the same way we are CALLED to take the gospel to sinners. You can’t do that from the walls of your church anymore than you can from your high horse so please dismount. smh you must have been one of those that turned your nose up at people who told you Happy Holidays in December huh?

      • Ken

        You are misquoting him. He said he wanted to be kown as a rapper who is Christian. Not just a rapper. Are you know as a Christian secretary, or a Christian pharmaceutical rep, or a Christian baker? No. He is a rapper who lives out his faith and convictions. How many non Christians would listen to his message if it were labeled ” Christian rap ” ? My guess is 3. 3 people is the correct answer lol.

      • Just a voice

        Dlundy1, hang on man… hang on because the wave of blindness of people that have swapped the “love for Christ” for “the love for Lecrae” is coming on high against you! It is never an easy task to speak the truth when people cannot endure sound doctrine. I loved Lecrae’s musuk but the clean spirit has left him… Let people pour out misjudged defence for their idol, as for me, my king is Christ. Lecrea is a sinking ship…time will prove you right, Dlundy1, just hang on, man! Speak the truth no matter if they believe it or not. The time is coming, yes, it is near, when Jesus will separate the goats from the sheep…For what business has the holly with the unholly??? Or what clean thing mixed with the unclean remains clean??? I am sad but Lecrae is truly playing the christian hypocrit, he, the very he who is blasting on christian hypocricy! Ohhhhh, the Devil is a truly subtle beast! We, who have known him – we know his devices, we recognise his ways and his lyrics…Sad, sad, sad for those who lack discerment.

  • Rebekka

    i cant take this serious. im sorry

    • dlundy1

      Thanks for your comment Rebekka,

      The truth is often hard to accept when we realize that it doesn’t align with what we WANT to believe.

      the blog post offers concrete lyrics to both display and defend the thesis that it implicates.

      If you have an objection to something in the blog post, point it out so that we both can discuss it.

      But simply saying “I can’t take this serious” offers no reasoning (not justification) to your perspective — therefore it appears you just don’t want to believe it.

      Feel free to engage in discussion by replying to this, but even if you don’t — I want to thank you for taking the time to comment on the blog.

  • Rebekka

    i cant take this serious. im sorry

    • dlundy1

      Thanks for your comment Rebekka,

      The truth is often hard to accept when we realize that it doesn’t align with what we WANT to believe.

      the blog post offers concrete lyrics to both display and defend the thesis that it implicates.

      If you have an objection to something in the blog post, point it out so that we both can discuss it.

      But don’t just say…
      “I can’t take this serious”

      This offers no reasonable evidence to justify your objection to the argument I made within this post.

      — Instead it appears you just don’t want to believe it.

      Feel free to engage in discussion by replying to this, but even if you don’t — I want to thank you for taking the time to comment on the blog.

  • chris

    Lecrae( my whole life changed) church clothes volume 2
    Imma talk about faith, imma talk about Christ imma talk about life cause I want to. Changed my life I aint lost my sight ive been on the same thing since 02.

    • dlundy1

      Chris, I think you have confused yourself somewhere.

      firstly, I don’t deny that some of Lecrae’s lyrics are APPEASING to Christians — but are you claiming that Lecrae said NOTHING that doesn’t contradict Christian values?

      Surely you cannot be saying that, If so be sure you read the accompanying post that was written Prior to this one.

      >http://tinyurl.com/nv675s6<

      But regarding your comment — I don't claim to be perfect, If I were perfect then I would have no need for a savior. But I delight myself in the love and grace that we have attained through his sacrifice on the cross.

      But now let me pose a question to you…

      How is it that you call me a Pharisee when I have received Jesus as my Lord and Savior while they chose to reject him?

      According to (1 John 4:1-5 ) — anyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ and places their trust in him is OF GOD.

      Therefore as a believer (allegedly), how can you speak such things against a fellow brother? Either you are lying in your accusation of me being a Pharisee — or the BIBLE is lying.

      …. Which do you think it is?

    • dlundy1

      But back to your comment about Lecrae’s lyrics…

      yes some of his Lyrics are “Christianly” —

      But I would have to call you a liar if you claimed that they all are.

      You said that I am Misquoting and Misinterpreting his lyrics — I am not.

      In my opinion, you appear to be so fixated on translating whatever Lecrae says into something good even if it is not good.

      I do not claim that Lecrae is not a real Christian — but I would say that he is a Christian being seduced by the secular media and the glaze of fame and riches.

      But I will continue to pray for him nonetheless.
      I suggest you do the same instead of attacking me for stating the obvious.

  • chris

    Lecrae( my whole life changed) church clothes volume 2
    Imma talk about faith, imma talk about Christ imma talk about life cause I want to. Changed my life I aint lost my sight ive been on the same thing since 02.

    How are these lyrics evil. How are any of lecraes lyrics evil

    You can not misquote, misinterpret and expect his fans not to defend him.

    Your just mad because ” church clothes” is aimed at Pharisees like you. Tryin to act like your perfect get out of here

    • dlundy1

      Chris, I think you have confused yourself somewhere.

      firstly, I don’t deny that some of Lecrae’s lyrics are APPEASING to Christians — but are you claiming that Lecrae said NOTHING that doesn’t contradict Christian values?

      Surely you cannot be saying that, If so be sure you read the accompanying post that was written Prior to this one.

      >http://tinyurl.com/nv675s6<

      But regarding your comment — I don't claim to be perfect, If I were perfect then I would have no need for a savior. But I delight myself in the love and grace that we have attained through his sacrifice on the cross.

      But now let me pose a question to you…

      How is it that you call me a Pharisee when I have received Jesus as my Lord and Savior while they chose to reject him?

      According to (1 John 4:1-5 ) — anyone who believes that Jesus is the Christ and places their trust in him is OF GOD.

      Therefore as a believer (allegedly), how can you speak such things against a fellow brother? Either you are lying in your accusation of me being a Pharisee — or the BIBLE is lying.

      …. Which do you think it is?

      • Josh Davis

        Very easily, Dlundy1:

        The pharisees too believed that they were acting out God’s commands, and they CRUCIFIED our Lord.

        No, you aren’t a Jew (I’m assuming), so you are immediately excluded from being a Pharisee. However, you can have a similar attitude as the Pharisees. Also, I’m not saying that Crae is perfect, or that he claims to be, only that you are not painting the full picture.

    • dlundy1

      But back to your comment about Lecrae’s lyrics…

      yes some of his Lyrics are “Christianly” —

      But I would have to call you a liar if you claimed that they all are.

      You said that I am Misquoting and Misinterpreting his lyrics — I am not.

      In my opinion, you appear to be so fixated on translating whatever Lecrae says into something good even if it is not good.

      I do not claim that Lecrae is not a real Christian — but I would say that he is a Christian being seduced by the secular media and the glaze of fame and riches.

      But I will continue to pray for him nonetheless.
      I suggest you do the same instead of attacking me for stating the obvious.

    • JesusBeaFence

      like that man needs or wants any more money. This blogger must not have heard Confe$$ions. What is this world coming to when we would tear down our own brother in Christ. We should be happy that he is trying to reach a more secular crowd. If he has such a problem then why not write an open letter to Mr Moore and let him tell you exactly what we are saying instead of sneak dissing him.

  • Mike

    The Bible tells Christians not to judge outsiders, but the Church does it as it tries evangelizing to them. A non-Christian would justify his actions to Christians because he hears them telling him he needs Jesus, but has a misconception that Christians are supposed to be perfect and thus uses the hypocrisy of the church as an excuse to reject his need for Jesus.

    • dlundy1

      I would agree with that comment entirely,

      We do not judge outsiders, instead we merely point them to Christ.

      But those who profess to be brothers are held to a higher standard. Although we are not perfect, we should not be WILLFULLY sinning.

      It is important to note to unbelievers that they are not perfect and neither are we. That is the beauty of the love and mercy God has extended to us through his son Jesus Christ.

      • Mike

        Exactly.. after all, if we were perfect, we wouldn’t need a Saviour. It’s actually a silly excuse, seeing as unbelievers aren’t exempt from being hypocrites themselves.

  • Mike

    The Bible tells Christians not to judge outsiders, but the Church does it as it tries evangelizing to them. A non-Christian would justify his actions to Christians because he hears them telling him he needs Jesus, but has a misconception that Christians are supposed to be perfect and thus uses the hypocrisy of the church as an excuse to reject his need for Jesus.

    • dlundy1

      I would agree with that comment entirely,

      We do not judge outsiders, instead we merely point them to Christ.

      But those who profess to be brothers are held to a higher standard. Although we are not perfect, we should not be WILLFULLY sinning.

      It is important to note to unbelievers that they are not perfect and neither are we. That is the beauty of the love and mercy God has extended to us through his son Jesus Christ.

      • Mike

        Exactly.. after all, if we were perfect, we wouldn’t need a Saviour. It’s actually a silly excuse, seeing as unbelievers aren’t exempt from being hypocrites themselves.

  • Mike Dunne

    Seriously?
    “But since when has the Bible directed Christians to go out into the world and scrutinize non-Christians? There are far too many non-Christians in the world for Christians to even fathom doing such a thing.”

    I, as a Christian, was “scrutinized” walking through the doors of a new “church” I was checking out.
    Apparently, since I wasn’t wearing a suit and tie, I was “being disrespectful of God’s House”.
    I asked the person that said that, “What would you say to a homeless person, who walked in wearing rags, stinking of his own urine?”
    The response?
    “I’d tell him to go home and clean up.”
    ^THIS^ is the mindset of some who are in the leadership of the “church”.

    “The Church” ISN’T the building, or the denomination. It’s the people that are the Church. The “church” buildings ARE emptying, because it isn’t Church….it’s a club. And God help you if you don’t look like a current member.

    I can attest to the mindset at work in the lyrics of his song, as I’ve repeatedly heard them while witnessing to unbelievers. That witnessing happens outside of the “church” buildings, as most non believers will NEVER step through the doors, based on what they SEE vs what they’ve heard.

    If you believe we should “talk up” the church, so they will go in to hear the Gospel, you have failed on the calling of the great commission. The reaching out with the Gospel, is done by believers, NOT the Pastor. The Congregation is for fellowship of those already saved.
    Read more at http://www.deonvsearth.com/lecrae-gospel-music-christian-rap/#ZtS80yPcwtTMJO9e.

    • dlundy1

      Whoever scrutinized you for your clothing was wrong.
      The clothes do not make a man unclean, nor can the things a man eat make him unclean. (Mark 7:15)

      You are correct to say that the Church isn’t the building — It is indeed the people. But with that being said when the PEOPLE who claim to be followers of Christ don’t set an example — then they bring shame to the Church.

      But at the same time its important to note that even those who are STRIVING to be conformed to the image of Christ are not perfect — yet that doesn’t mean that I should go out into the streets and preach how “UNHOLY” struggling church members are.

      The fact that they are even striving for righteousness is worthy of applause and recognition.

      • Josh Davis

        You know what…I’m so glad that when I was a child of lawlessness that there were Christians there who CARED ENOUGH FOR ME to stay around me and invest in me when I was a fornicator, covetous, an idolater, and a railing, drunken extortionist.

        By God’s grace, Christians invested in me at that time and showed me Christ.

  • Joshua

    He’s obviously writing from another perspective. This article assuming the man’s heart when he says otherwise. That’s the definition of judging.
    You don’t know his heart, so don’t speculate.
    He said what it means, it’s obvious. It’s from another perspective.
    I worry that all this is an attempt to get more readers by jumping in to a controversy. At the expense of another Christian. Not cool.

  • Craig Dumas

    Thank you for posting this. I get the feeling that you are genuinely concerned for Lecrae and just want to make sure he didn’t get famous and go off the deep end. I’m glad that there are brothers and sisters of the faith who still want to stand for holiness.

    But I find your entire argument to be flawed, even after having read another article you posted regarding Lecrae.

    Although it wasn’t written with the Body of Christ in mind as its primary audience, listening to all the lyrics instead of just a few excerpts taken out of context makes it obvious that these mixtapes are meant to bring glory to God in a pre-evangelistic capacity. Some of these lyrics simply acknowledge why a lot of people don’t attend church or some of the struggles people face both internal (sin) and external (poverty). First example that pops in my mind is a song he did on Church Clothes 1 called “Misconception” where he shares the Gospel with people from conviction of sin to repentance. Overall, I think Crae just took the focus off of preaching to the choir and youth group music (nothing wrong with that at all) and focused on engaging the culture in a way that proves Jesus is relevant and does care about peoples’ troubles much like Jesus did when He walked the earth. Jesus’ ministry wasn’t just “repent ye heathens!” there was also a lot of Jesus asking “what can I do for you?”

    Also, to answer your questions:

    Why would a non-christian face Scrutiny from Christians?

    They do all the time. Sometimes it’s called conviction. Christians love on non-believers around them but also let them know that there are some things they just don’t approve of. Whether you follow Him or not, God is still God and his law is still sovereign. Then you also have the pharisees who just like to look down on people but won’t lift a finger to help them up, depends on the Christian I guess.

    Why would a non-christian need to Justify their actions?

    Easy. It’s how they deal with the conviction they may be dealing with when someone tells them they’re messing up. If they feel like there’s a good reason why they do certain sins (sell crack to feed their family, write trash music celebrating hood life to get out of the hood ect), it helps them sleep better at night

    Why would a non-christian be concerned with “Selling a Song”?
    Again, you’re failing to take the context of this verse into account. This entire verse is clearly from the perspective of a non Christian, probably another artist he met in the industry. Non Christians have the law of God written on their hearts the same as us and experience conviction when they know they’re doing wrong. Maybe not to the same extent as us but they do experience it. And when you compare that to the type of trash a lot of secular artist put out now a days, no wonder some of them feel conflicted between doing what makes money and fame and doing what’s right.

    Again man, I’m not trying to take shots at you by any means. If anything, I applaud your pursuit of holiness and wanting to keep others accountable. I simply ask that we as believers do our due diligence in making sure we understand each other instead of trying to tear down someone just because they didn’t do something the way you would have. We as the army of the Lord have got to be the only army that makes it a habit to shoot at our own troops for little to no reason and that type of stuff has really got to stop.

  • Tyler Davis

    Man you really do not understand Lecrae. Regardless of what perspective he is rapping from it is still facts being stated. The church is falling apart. I’m constantly in the word, praying, and truly seeking God. Yet I don’t feel comfortable st church because I don’t have the money nor desire for a suit to wear every Sunday. But then I see girls/guys who get in stage in Sunday’s and sing when they are still hungover from Saturday night. The western church is so full of hypocrisy it is disgusting.

    Lecrae raps about his life. He is REACHING secular artists and attempting to witness to them…and guess what. When someone searches a secular artists who has featured with him the Lecrae song will be right there talking about JESUS.

    Bottom line I do not believe he is doing it for sales but to expand the number of people who listen to him, thus his music can hopefully impact them and maybe it will be the FIRST time they’ve considered what Christianity is all about.

    Co-sign–“I’m not a gospel rapper, I’m not a holy roller, im a product of grace spreading hope to the hopeless”

    Why does he want away from the label Christian Rapper?

    Co-sign also has a line that says “they want me to sign on the dotted line but I’m not for sale”. (Btw the full church clothes album is available in datpiff. Lecrae wanted that mixtape to be FREE so people would know who he is and what he is about. If he was worried about sales he wouldn’t offer an 18 song mixtape for free).

    Simple. Very simple. He is trying to reach anyone he can. His music did “change” but Jesus is still very much in his music. Maybe church clothes isn’t your favorite song but he straight states facts. The western church is FILLED with Pharisees.

    What I think is he is saying to non believers “i know your excuse for not coming to church. I know the church is messed but so are you and some(not necessarily all) of us are striving to be more like Christ.”

    Lecrae has been talking about “controversial” subjects since he started. These controversial issues are really just elephants in the church that Christians are too afraid to address because there is backlash like this when you start to get down to the gritty and just get real.

  • Good Afternoon Sir, Awesome Article. Thanks for calling it as it is. And thanks for putting Jesus first before a Celebrity unlike so many people who call themselves Christians today & are fans of Christian Artists rather than worshippers of God. Sir, have you seen the interview that Lecrae did with The Breakfast Club, as well as the one he did with Hot 97. It’s avaliable on YouTube. I must confess, after I watched it I realised that Lecrae is no more a Christian. He is as Christian as the Pope who now preaches that all roads lead to God. – A.B.King.

  • Khristion Stemm

    Just like the Bible, you can’t take stuff out of CONTEXT