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Noah Movie Review | A Christian’s Perspective

Deon
April 21, 2014

noahNoah Movie Review: Spoiler Alert

I am sure many of you have heard about the new ‘Noah’ movie. Although most reviews I heard were primarily negative, I decided to watch the movie for myself so that I could give an honest Christian review.

If you would like to watch a few other Christian’s reviews on the movie Noah then watch the video below,

If not then feel free to Skip the Video and continue reading.

So After hearing so much of the commotion about this movie, I decided to watch it for myself. After all, there were so many different responses even within the Christian Community. So as I sat down in the theater with my family and my popcorn, I couldn’t help but wonder how this night would turn out.

The Garden Of Eden fruit

The Noah movie starts out with a very blurred description of the garden of Eden and doesn’t fully go into detail about how mankind had fallen, nor does it even give an accurate description of the incidents that took place within the garden (regarding the serpent and how he tricked Eve).

At that moment, I assumed that this was because the director was attempting to get right to the movie and just wanted to give a quick summary of the events. But as the movie progressed I discovered that It was in fact Intentional and was a vital part to the story, the corrupt version that is. (more on this later)

Noah and his Father

One day, Noah and his father (Lamech) were out in the fields collecting minerals when they were attacked by Tubal Cain (a descendent of Cain). Noah escaped but his father was brutally murdered. But just before Noah’s father was murdered, he tried to bless Noah with the skin of the Serpent from the garden, which brings us to our first biblical contradiction.

The Skin of the Serpent serpent-skin

Throughout the movie, there is a “Magic” skin that came from the serpent in the garden of Eden. In the movie, this skin is used to “Bless” whoever is in possession of it.
This is clearly a Biblical contradiction for its implication that the skin of the Serpent (Satan) is able to bless.
In the book of Genesis, wee see God directly curses the serpent (Gen 3:14), therefore how can the movie depict it as a Blessing? The Bible clearly states that whosoever God Blesses no man can curse and that whosoever God curses, no man can bless
So as the movie Progresses, Noah becomes a man and takes him a wife. Noah’s wife then conceives 3 sons, and these sons are Shem, Ham, and Japheth. In the movie, Noah begins to have visions and becomes restless because of them. Therefore he decides to go visit his grandfather (Methuselah) in hopes that he could help him figure out the meaning of the dreams.
Along the way, they come across a wounded girl and adopt her, but then they are chased by a tribe of people and forced to enter into the Forbidden Land which brings us to our Next Biblical Contradiction.

The Rock People: watchers

Throughout the movie, there is a powerful group of creatures that are referred to as The Watchers.These creatures were enormous and they were encased in large blocks of stone. Although they are referred to as Watchers within the movie, the bible refers to them as Fallen Angels or Demons.
In the movie, It was the Demons who adopted Cain and helped him survive when God punished him for murdering his brother Abel.
But to continue, Noah and his family were then chased into the the Forbidden Land which is the home of the Watchers (demons). When they were there, they found one Watcher who was willing to help him find his grandfather.
But on the way to meet Methuselah, the Watcher (demon) told Noah a very Interesting story about what he says really happened in the beginning when mankind fell.
The Watcher told Noah that he and all the other Watchers watched as mankind began to destroy itself. They felt pity for humanity and therefore tried to intervene and help humanity stop destroying itself. But according to the Watcher, God became very angry with them for doing this and therefore God Punished them and kicked them out of heaven. It is this story that the watcher told Noah that brings us to our Next contradiction.

The Fall of Humanity serpent

This story that the Watcher told Noah is in direct contradiction to the Bible. The movie makes the Watchers (demons) appear to be Allies of humanity who were punished by an evil god who wanted to see humanity be destroyed. But from the Bible we can clearly see that the Demons were cast out of heaven for following Lucifer (Satan) in his mutiny against the most-high God. It was this event that caused Lucifer and his angels to be expelled from Heaven, and not what the movie allegedly claims.
The movie also clearly omitted the account in the garden of Eden pertaining to the serpent who tricked eve and caused her to eat of the fruit of the tree that God commanded them not to eat of. Therefore it was the Serpent (Lucifer and The Watchers) who caused the fall of mankind.
The fall of mankind was NOT some accidental occurrence, but instead we were Sabotaged by these so called “Watchers” (devils).

Noah Begins his Mission ark

So after the Watchers take Noah to see his grandfather, he discovers through a vision (that he received after drinking the magic potion that Methuselah gave him) that he had to build an ark to save the 2 of each kind of animal.
The movie then builds on Noah’s relationship with the Watchers by having Noah ask for their Help. After the Watchers are convinced that God wants Noah to build the Ark, they begin to help Noah build the Ark!
So guess who built the Ark, It wasn’t Noah… It was the Watchers! (Demons)
(Are You Disgusted? I sure Was)
fast-forwarding, burst
After the Watchers built the Ark with Noah they ended up giving up their lives to help save Noah and his family from the invading tribe of people trying to find safety within the confines of the Ark.
But because of the selfless sacrifice of the Watchers to protect Noah and his family even with their own life, in a spectacular burst of light, the Watchers (Demons) were restored into heaven for giving their lives to help save humanity (Noah).
… Wow. How can anyone who professes to be a Christian can sit and not condemn the subliminal messages being sent within this movie. Demons dying to save Humanity?
After seeing this, I was literally disgusted and I wanted to leave the movie theater but for the sake of this blog post I grit my teeth and continued watching.

The Sons of Noah

Another blatant contradiction to the Bible is the account of Noah’s son’s and their families. In the Bible, all 3 of the sons of Noah have for themselves wives
(Genesis 7:13)  In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah’s wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;ham
But within the movie, only ONE of Noah’s sons had a Wife. And when the younger son went and found him a wife, Noah allowed her to be trampled and killed when he could have saved her. This resulted in his son Ham hating him.

Noah’s Conclusion plan

After Noah realized just how evil humanity had become, he came to the conclusion that only the Animals were truly innocent before God And the only way that they could stop the animals and the earth from being harmed is to ensure that humankind is not around to harm these creations. So Noah concluded that it was the ‘will of God’ for only the animals to live on the earth, therefore all humans must die including him, his wife, and his children.
The Creator
Throughout the movie, whenever any character makes reference to God they never actually used the word ‘God’, instead they refer to him as ‘the creator’. This is a direct attack on God’s supreme authority and is evidence that the creators of the film didn’t feel that God was worthy to be called ‘God’ so they settled for a very watered-down title and ended up with ‘The Creator’.

The Paganism behind the Movie Noah Darren Afonosky

Throughout the movie I could not help but wonder where on earth did the director (Darren Aronofsky) come up with this very bizarre translation of the bible.
So upon further research, I discovered the this film was not using the bible at all as its guide. Instead it was using an Ancient text called the Kabbalah and teachings from Gnosticism to tell the account of Noah’s flood from a pagan’s perspective.

Noah The Psycho psycho

After Noah and his family were safely upon the Ark, he told his family about what he believed God wanted and that was for all humans to be destroyed and only for the animals to remain on the earth.
But while upon the Ark, the wife of Shem (who was once barren) became pregnant.
two
And after Noah found out the news he literally went haywire because this contradicts with “The Creator’s” plans to destroy all humans. So Noah announces to them that if their child is a boy, then the child may live but the child is a girl then he will be forced to destroy the child.
So after about 9months on the ark, the time came for Shem’s wife to give birth.fire
The plan of Shem and his wife was to create a tiny raft where they could escape Noah and prevent him from murdering their new born.
So as they prepared to leave the Ark on their raft, along came the Psycho path Noah and threw a wine-bomb onto their raft causing it to explode in flames.

Noah Goes Wild

Not long after Noah destroys the raft, the wife of Shem goes into Labor. So as Shem’s wife is in labor, he stands guard at the tent to ensure that Noah cannot get inside to murder his child no matter what sex they are. As Shem is standing guard at the tent, Noah is circling around the tent like a starving Jackal waiting to get its first drop of food.
So somehow Shem ends up attacking Noah but then gets knocked unconscious. babies
Noah then speeds to the tent to see whether the child will live or die. He then finds Shem’s wife on the roof holding not just one child but two…. two beautiful twin girls.
So when Noah finds this out, he draws his machete and prepares to slay the two daughters. So as Noah lifts his weapon to kill them, he then puts it back down and looks up to the sky and says to God…
“I am sorry, I cannot do this. I have failed you.”
As if it was God’s will for him to slay these 2 innocent babies!

The Water Subsides

After Noah and his family leaves the ark, they free all the animals to allow them to repopulate. But might I remind you that there are 4 men but only 2 women on the arc, the wife of Noah and the wife of Shem. Therefore Ham and Japheth do not have wives to help repopulate mankind. Therefore making the act of repopulating the earth even more unlikely.

Conclusion

This movie is so biblically inaccurate that it is actually disgusting. They demonize God but sanctify the Demons to be the friends of mankind. I would like to write this movie off as simply a “Bad Movie” but I think it goes much more deeper than that. This movie was a clear attack on the Biblical accuracy of the Bible as well as an Attack on God’s character. Anyone who has read the bible and are familiar with these events should be able to immediately recognize the inconsistencies within this movie, but my fear is that a nation of non-believers are being driven further away from the Gospel with disgusting and perverse doctrines that disguise itself under the cloak of a Bible Story like the movie ‘Noah’ by Darren Aronofsky
To The Reader:
Have you seen the Movie? If so, what were some of your thoughts?
If not, Do you Intend on watching it?
Deon

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  • rolltide

    Great review, Deon. You are right, it was NOT BIBLICALLY accurate, but it is VERY accurate with what the “KABBALAH” says. That should tell us the beliefs of the MAJORITY of the Hollywood elite. It is Judaic mysticism. Why is it that many consider themselves “Judeo – Christian”? What does Judaism and TRUE Christianity have in common………NOTHING; it is dark versus light. Are you familiar with the “Talmud”; Judaism’s most sacred text? It is the serpent that is worshipped in Judaism, NOT GOD!! To them the serpent IS God!!!

    • rolltide

      For anyone who calls themselves “Judeo-Christian” don’t you think you need to know what Judaism is about??? You will be SHOCKED……that is……IF you TRULY follow Jesus!!!! And I don’t think you will want to call yourself that ever again.

    • dlundy1

      Thanks for your reply rolltide!

      Sorry I am just getting around to responding. But although I agree that the Kabbalah is actually a Satanic text — I would disagree that Judaism is the worship of the Serpent.

      I say this because Jesus practiced Judaism — and the ‘Torah’ (old testament) is the book that Guides Judaism.

      So to say that Judaism worships the serpent is for you to say that JESUS worshiped the serpent (Which we know is not true.)

      The “Talmud” is not a BIBLICAL doctrine — It was created by thousands of Rabbis (Scribes and Pharisees) who tried to teach their MAN-MADE doctrine as “God-Inspired”.

      This is what Jesus spoke of when he called the HYPOCRITES and SERPENTS

      (Mark 7:4) and when they come from the market-place, except they bathe themselves, they eat not; and many other things there are, which they have received to hold, washings of cups, and pots, and brasen vessels.)

      (Mark 7:5) And the Pharisees and the scribes ask him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat their bread with defiled hands?

      (Mark 7:6) And he said unto them, Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoreth me with their lips, But their heart is far from me.

      (Mark 7:7) But in vain do they worship me, Teaching as their doctrines the precepts of men.

      (Mark 7:8) Ye leave the commandment of God, and hold fast the tradition of men.

      (Mark 7:9) And he said unto them, Full well do ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your tradition.

      (Mark 7:10) For Moses said, Honor thy father and thy mother; and, He that speaketh evil of father or mother, let him die the death:

      (Mark 7:11) but ye say, If a man shall say to his father or his mother, That wherewith thou mightest have been profited by me is Corban, that is to say, Given to God;

      (Mark 7:12) ye no longer suffer him to do aught for his father or his mother;

      (Mark 7:13) making void the word of God by your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things ye do.

      (Mark 7:14) And he called to him the multitude again, and said unto them, Hear me all of you, and understand:

      (Mark 7:15) there is nothing from without the man, that going into him can defile him; but the things which proceed out of the man are those that defile the man.

      (Mark 7:16) If any man hath ears to hear, let him hear.

      • rolltide

        Thanks for responding.

        First of all, I don’t think Jesus practiced RELIGION AT ALL! He was all about walking in a close RELATIONSHIP with the Father. Yes, He kept the law, just as any Jew would. I think He made it ABUNDANTLY CLEAR what He thought about religion, that is Judaism. The New Covenant wasn’t made til Jesus died, after that, the old was nullified. But Judaism doesn’t except that. They are the VERY ONES who killed Him!!! And obviously, they are STILL very proud of that fact. The little “skull cap” they wear; the “kippah” is in mockery of Jesus, and His death. It signifies Golgatha, the place of the skull. Do you relly think that is in honor of Him???? NO!!! It is a mockery. The long curls of hair that they wear on each side of their face represents “Leviathon” or the “coiled serpent”.

        Judaism was tainted when Jerusalem and the temple were destroyed in the days of Jeremiah and Daniel. It was in Babylon, during the 70 years of captivity that the “religious” men from Jerusalem, who had once followed the Torah that they combined Torah with pagan Babylonian religion. The writings that came from the mixture is the Talmud.

        Are you familiar with “realjewsnews?? Brother Nathanial is a Jew and was raised as a Jew, but now he is a born again Christian and he exposes the Jews and their religion for what they are. Here’s a link to a interview Bro. Nathanial did with the author of “Judaism’s Strange God’s”. Very interesting!
        http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=20

        • dlundy1

          Thanks again for your comment.

          I agree, Jesus did not practice “Religion” simply because religion is MAN-MADE.

          But Jesus DID however keep the laws of God — these laws can be found in the book of Leviticus in the Torah.

          The Torah is the Primary text in Judaism and it is the “Old Testament” in The Bible. But with that being said — there are OTHER texts that have been introduced into Judaism that were not “God-Inspired” (such as the talmud as we agree upon).

          These doctrines were NOT God-inspired but were MAN-MADE by the Scribes and the Pharisees who went “Whoring” after pagan gods (such as the serpent) and the other gods of the surrounding nations — this is why they were placed in Exile.

          BUT- although we both agree that ungodly teachings have been introduced into MODERN Judaism — we cannot “Throw out the baby with the Bathwater”.

          Therefore we cannot say that ALL Judaism is bad simply because the TORAH is still the original text of Judaism — Therefore that would mean that the entire OLD testament is BAD and should be done away with.

          But Jesus clearly stated that he did not come to DESTROY the Old Testament (Torah) — But instead to FULFILL it.

          (Matthew 5:17) “Think not that I came to destroy the law or the prophets: I came not to destroy, but to fulfil.

          (Matthew 5:18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law, till all things be accomplished.

          (Matthew 5:19) Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

          (Matthew 5:20) For I say unto you, that except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no wise enter into the kingdom of heaven.”

          Although we both agree on pretty much the same thing — the main disagreement is that you defined “Judaism” as a WHOLE evil instead of the ungodly texts that have INFILTRATED Judaism.

          Jesus fulfilled the Torah — and the Torah is apart of Judaism. So by saying that ALL of Judaism is bad, you are discrediting our Bible as well.

          Does this make sense?

          • rolltide

            These are the red letters, Jesus HIMSELF talking to the religious men of His day. Again, NOT MY WORDS BUT JESUS’ WORDS….from John chapter 5. Notice that this conversation was taking place right after Jesus healed a man on the sabbath…..to them, that was a no no!!!
            John 5:39-47………..

            39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

            40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

            41 I receive not honour from men.

            42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.

            43 I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

            44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?

            45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.

            46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.

            47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

            Notice what Jesus says in verses 45-47. According to Him, Moses, who wrote the Torah accuses them. Then He says, “If YOU BELIEVED MOSES, YOU WOULD BELIEVE ME”!!!!!

            Jesus REPEATEDLY called them, “brood of vipers”, and told them; “your Father is not Abraham, you are of your father the devil”, and told them they “followed the ‘traditions of men”. That’s what the Talmud is, the traditions of men.

            The Encyclopedia Judaica states that today’s “Judaism” is the same religion as that of the Pharisees.

            I think I can scripturally say that this religion has only gotten worse down through the years. According to Jesus; He told them that the ones that they proselytzed were TWICE AS BAD AS THEY WERE!!!! (paraphrased) To me that’s saying it would only get worse. If…..according to Jesus, they were a ‘generation of vipers’ THEN, what would He call them NOW!!!????

            Again, these are NOT my words, but the words of JESUS. What would you say to Him about what He said?? Would you STILL defend this evil? What would you say to Moses; Jesus said Moses accused them. I don’t think I would argue with those two!!!

          • rolltide

            PS: The address of the scripture I referred to in my last comment is Matt. 23:15:

            King James Bible
            Woe
            unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and
            land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold
            more the child of hell than yourselves.

  • rolltide

    Great review, Deon. You are right, it was NOT BIBLICALLY accurate, but it is VERY accurate with what the “KABBALAH” says. That should tell us the beliefs of the MAJORITY of the Hollywood elite. It is Judaic mysticism. Why is it that many consider themselves “Judeo – Christian”? What does Judaism and TRUE Christianity have in common………NOTHING; it is dark versus light. Are you familiar with the “Talmud”; Judaism’s most sacred text? It is the serpent that is worshipped in Judaism, NOT GOD!! To them the serpent IS God!!!

    • rolltide

      For anyone who calls themselves “Judeo-Christian” don’t you think you need to know what Judaism is about??? You will be SHOCKED……that is……IF you TRULY follow Jesus!!!! And I don’t think you will want to call yourself that ever again.

    • dlundy1

      Thanks for your reply rolltide!

      Sorry I am just getting around to responding. But although I agree that the Kabbalah is actually a Satanic text — I would disagree that Judaism is the worship of the Serpent.

      I say this because Jesus practiced Judaism — and the ‘Torah’ (old testament) is the book that Guides Judaism.

      So to say that Judaism worships the serpent is for you to say that JESUS worshiped the serpent (Which we know is not true.)

      The “Talmud” is not a BIBLICAL doctrine — It was created by thousands of Rabbis (Scribes and Pharisees) who tried to teach their MAN-MADE doctrine as “God-Inspired”.

      This is what Jesus spoke of when he called the HYPOCRITES and SERPENTS

      (Mark 7:4) and when they come from the market-place, except they bathe themselves, they eat not; and many other things there are, which they have received to hold, washings of cups, and pots, and brasen vessels.)

      (Mark 7:5) And the Pharisees and the scribes ask him, Why walk not thy disciples according to the tradition of the elders, but eat their bread with defiled hands?

      (Mark 7:6) And he said unto them, Well did Isaiah prophesy of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoreth me with their lips, But their heart is far from me.

      (Mark 7:7) But in vain do they worship me, Teaching as their doctrines the precepts of men.

      (Mark 7:8) Ye leave the commandment of God, and hold fast the tradition of men.

      (Mark 7:9) And he said unto them, Full well do ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your tradition.

      (Mark 7:10) For Moses said, Honor thy father and thy mother; and, He that speaketh evil of father or mother, let him die the death:

      (Mark 7:11) but ye say, If a man shall say to his father or his mother, That wherewith thou mightest have been profited by me is Corban, that is to say, Given to God;

      (Mark 7:12) ye no longer suffer him to do aught for his father or his mother;

      (Mark 7:13) making void the word of God by your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things ye do.

      (Mark 7:14) And he called to him the multitude again, and said unto them, Hear me all of you, and understand:

      (Mark 7:15) there is nothing from without the man, that going into him can defile him; but the things which proceed out of the man are those that defile the man.

      (Mark 7:16) If any man hath ears to hear, let him hear.

      • rolltide

        Thanks for responding.

        First of all, I don’t think Jesus practiced RELIGION AT ALL! He was all about walking in a close RELATIONSHIP with the Father. Yes, He kept the law, just as any Jew would. I think He made it ABUNDANTLY CLEAR what He thought about religion, that is Judaism. The New Covenant wasn’t made til Jesus died, after that, the old was nullified. But Judaism doesn’t except that. They are the VERY ONES who killed Him!!! And obviously, they are STILL very proud of that fact. The little “skull cap” they wear; the “kippah” is in mockery of Jesus, and His death. It signifies Golgatha, the place of the skull. Do you relly think that is in honor of Him???? NO!!! It is a mockery. The long curls of hair that they wear on each side of their face represents “Leviathon” or the “coiled serpent”.

        Judaism was tainted when Jerusalem and the temple were destroyed in the days of Jeremiah and Daniel. It was in Babylon, during the 70 years of captivity that the “religious” men from Jerusalem, who had once followed the Torah that they combined Torah with pagan Babylonian religion. The writings that came from the mixture is the Talmud.

        Are you familiar with “realjewsnews?? Brother Nathanial is a Jew and was raised as a Jew, but now he is a born again Christian and he exposes the Jews and their religion for what they are. Here’s a link to a interview Bro. Nathanial did with the author of “Judaism’s Strange God’s”. Very interesting!
        http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=20

        • dlundy1

          Thanks again for your comment.

          I agree, Jesus did not practice “Religion” simply because religion is MAN-MADE.

          But Jesus DID however keep the laws of God — these laws can be found in the book of Leviticus in the Torah.

          The Torah is the Primary text in Judaism and it is the “Old Testament” in The Bible. But with that being said — there are OTHER texts that have been introduced into Judaism that were not “God-Inspired” (such as the talmud as we agree upon).

          These doctrines were NOT God-inspired but were MAN-MADE by the Scribes and the Pharisees who went “Whoring” after pagan gods (such as the serpent) and the other gods of the surrounding nations — this is why they were placed in Exile.

          BUT- although we both agree that ungodly teachings have been introduced into MODERN Judaism — we cannot “Throw out the baby with the Bathwater”.

          Therefore we cannot say that ALL Judaism is bad simply because the TORAH is still the original text of Judaism — Therefore that would mean that the entire OLD testament is BAD and should be done away with.

          But Jesus clearly stated that he did not come to DESTROY the Old Testament (Torah) — But instead to FULFILL it.

          (Matthew 5:17) “Think not that I came to destroy the law or the prophets: I came not to destroy, but to fulfil.

          (Matthew 5:18) For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law, till all things be accomplished.

          (Matthew 5:19) Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, he shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

          (Matthew 5:20) For I say unto you, that except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no wise enter into the kingdom of heaven.”

          Although we both agree on pretty much the same thing — the main disagreement is that you defined “Judaism” as a WHOLE evil instead of the ungodly texts that have INFILTRATED Judaism.

          Jesus fulfilled the Torah — and the Torah is apart of Judaism. So by saying that ALL of Judaism is bad, you are discrediting our Bible as well.

          Does this make sense?

          • rolltide

            These are the red letters, Jesus HIMSELF talking to the religious men of His day. Again, NOT MY WORDS BUT JESUS’ WORDS….from John chapter 5. Notice that this conversation was taking place right after Jesus healed a man on the sabbath…..to them, that was a no no!!!
            John 5:39-47………..

            39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

            40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

            41 I receive not honour from men.

            42 But I know you, that ye have not the love of God in you.

            43 I am come in my Father’s name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

            44 How can ye believe, which receive honour one of another, and seek not the honour that cometh from God only?

            45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.

            46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.

            47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

            Notice what Jesus says in verses 45-47. According to Him, Moses, who wrote the Torah accuses them. Then He says, “If YOU BELIEVED MOSES, YOU WOULD BELIEVE ME”!!!!!

            Jesus REPEATEDLY called them, “brood of vipers”, and told them; “your Father is not Abraham, you are of your father the devil”, and told them they “followed the ‘traditions of men”. That’s what the Talmud is, the traditions of men.

            The Encyclopedia Judaica states that today’s “Judaism” is the same religion as that of the Pharisees.

            I think I can scripturally say that this religion has only gotten worse down through the years. According to Jesus; He told them that the ones that they proselytzed were TWICE AS BAD AS THEY WERE!!!! (paraphrased) To me that’s saying it would only get worse. If…..according to Jesus, they were a ‘generation of vipers’ THEN, what would He call them NOW!!!????

            Again, these are NOT my words, but the words of JESUS. What would you say to Him about what He said?? Would you STILL defend this evil? What would you say to Moses; Jesus said Moses accused them. I don’t think I would argue with those two!!!

          • rolltide

            PS: The address of the scripture I referred to in my last comment is Matt. 23:15:

            King James Bible
            Woe
            unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and
            land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold
            more the child of hell than yourselves.

  • rolltide

    No reply, Deon concerning my first comment?………………Was it something I said???!!!

    • dlundy1

      I apologize, I was occupied for a few days — But I Just responded to your comment 🙂

  • rolltide

    No reply, Deon concerning my first comment?………………Was it something I said???!!!

    • dlundy1

      I apologize, I was occupied for a few days — But I Just responded to your comment 🙂

  • rolltide

    Judaism’s Strange Gods: Revised and Expanded

    Paperback

    by

    Michael Hoffman

    (Author)
    In Judaism’s Strange Gods: Revised and Expanded Christian scholar
    Michael Hoffman documents his provocative thesis that Judaism is not
    the religion of the Old Testament, but the newly formalized belief
    system of the Pharisees, which arose in Babylon with the commitment of
    the formally oral traditions of the elders to writing, in the wake of
    the crucifixion of Israels Messiah and the destruction of the Temple.
    Basing
    his findings on authoritative Judaic sources, Hoffman demonstrates that
    Judaism is a man-made religion of tradition and superstition, which
    represents the institutionalized nullification of Biblical law and
    doctrine.
    Liberating the reader from the accumulated shackles of
    decades of misinformation, this book that shows that Judaism’s god is
    not the God of Israel, but the strange gods of Talmud and Kabbalah, and
    the racial self-worship they inculcate.

    I STRONGLY recommend this book to anyone who wants TRUTH, and to whomever wishes NOT to get caught up in the “strong delusion”. (2 Thes. 2)

    • dlundy1

      I am interested to see how the author separates the Torah from Judaism — this seems impossible.

      But thanks for the book recommendation.

      I will surely check it out and get back to you with my findings.

      • rolltide

        In one of my earlier posts, I copy/pasted Biblical text from John 5. In this chapter, Jesus, Himself separates Judaism from the Torah. He is talking to the Pharisees after they blew a gasket because He healed a man on the Sabbath.
        He told them, in NO uncertain terms that Moses himself, writer of the Torah; “accuses them”! He told them that “if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he spoke of Me”. That is pretty simple, they CLAIM Moses’ writings ………………..BUT……they don’t BELIEVE; for all that Moses wrote was pointing to Jesus…..WHOM THEY REJECTED AND KILLED!!!!

        More than once, while confronting these “religious leaders”; He told them that they followed the “traditions of men”……………NOT GOD!! Nothing has changed since then, it’s only gotten WORSE!!

        Jesus warned of the “leaven of the Pharisees”. He didn’t say Islam, New Age, Hinduism, …NO! He warned of JUDAISM.. Not quite the “usual suspects” that we hear about all the time. VERY SUBTILE!!! Isn’t that just like satan???

        I’ll re-copy/paste John 5:45-47. This is where JESUS separates Judaism from the Torah.

        45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.

        46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.

        47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

        Notice
        what Jesus says in verses 45-47. According to Him, Moses, who wrote the
        Torah accuses them. Then He says, “If YOU BELIEVED MOSES, YOU WOULD
        BELIEVE ME”!!!!!

        Jesus REPEATEDLY called them, “brood of vipers”,
        and told them; “your Father is not Abraham, you are of your father the
        devil”, and told them they “followed the ‘traditions of men”. That’s
        what the Talmud is, the traditions of men.

  • rolltide

    Judaism’s Strange Gods: Revised and Expanded

    Paperback

    by

    Michael Hoffman

    (Author)
    In Judaism’s Strange Gods: Revised and Expanded Christian scholar
    Michael Hoffman documents his provocative thesis that Judaism is not
    the religion of the Old Testament, but the newly formalized belief
    system of the Pharisees, which arose in Babylon with the commitment of
    the formally oral traditions of the elders to writing, in the wake of
    the crucifixion of Israels Messiah and the destruction of the Temple.
    Basing
    his findings on authoritative Judaic sources, Hoffman demonstrates that
    Judaism is a man-made religion of tradition and superstition, which
    represents the institutionalized nullification of Biblical law and
    doctrine.
    Liberating the reader from the accumulated shackles of
    decades of misinformation, this book that shows that Judaism’s god is
    not the God of Israel, but the strange gods of Talmud and Kabbalah, and
    the racial self-worship they inculcate.

    I STRONGLY recommend this book to anyone who wants TRUTH, and to whomever wishes NOT to get caught up in the “strong delusion”. (2 Thes. 2)

    • dlundy1

      I am interested to see how the author separates the Torah from Judaism — this seems impossible.

      But thanks for the book recommendation.

      I will surely check it out and get back to you with my findings.

      • rolltide

        In one of my earlier posts, I copy/pasted Biblical text from John 5. In this chapter, Jesus, Himself separates Judaism from the Torah. He is talking to the Pharisees after they blew a gasket because He healed a man on the Sabbath.
        He told them, in NO uncertain terms that Moses himself, writer of the Torah; “accuses them”! He told them that “if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he spoke of Me”. That is pretty simple, they CLAIM Moses’ writings ………………..BUT……they don’t BELIEVE; for all that Moses wrote was pointing to Jesus…..WHOM THEY REJECTED AND KILLED!!!!

        More than once, while confronting these “religious leaders”; He told them that they followed the “traditions of men”……………NOT GOD!! Nothing has changed since then, it’s only gotten WORSE!!

        Jesus warned of the “leaven of the Pharisees”. He didn’t say Islam, New Age, Hinduism, …NO! He warned of JUDAISM.. Not quite the “usual suspects” that we hear about all the time. VERY SUBTILE!!! Isn’t that just like satan???

        I’ll re-copy/paste John 5:45-47. This is where JESUS separates Judaism from the Torah.

        45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that accuseth you, even Moses, in whom ye trust.

        46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me.

        47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

        Notice
        what Jesus says in verses 45-47. According to Him, Moses, who wrote the
        Torah accuses them. Then He says, “If YOU BELIEVED MOSES, YOU WOULD
        BELIEVE ME”!!!!!

        Jesus REPEATEDLY called them, “brood of vipers”,
        and told them; “your Father is not Abraham, you are of your father the
        devil”, and told them they “followed the ‘traditions of men”. That’s
        what the Talmud is, the traditions of men.

  • rolltide

    Deon, Here is a link to a story, written by a man who was born a Jew and raised as a Jew. The name of the article is “Why I left Judaism”. http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=180 He is a born again Christian now and his ministry is to expose the evils of Judaism and Zionism. One one have to assume that he knows what he’s talking about!

    • dlundy1

      Thanks for the resource!

      I just read the article. It indeed contains interesting concepts that I am interested enough to investigate further.
      But although I do believe the fundamental message of the article — I think the writer should also provide more credible evidence to support their stance.

      Right now the reader is just being asked to “Take his word” for the information being provided — but it would be much more credible if he included excerpts from actual documents to strengthen his argument.

      But as I said, I am interested enough to begin my own research — and if everything checks out, I will write a post discussing it as well 🙂

      (God willing of course)

      • rolltide

        God bless you, Deon!! Thank you for being WILLING to take a look at this stuff. That’s more than I can say for most folks. Most would have already “banned” me for saying such things, even though I give mostly quotations from Jesus himself. For SOME REASON, most Christians just tend to pass right over these verses. (plus others) A scripture from Rev. comes to mind. ……something about adding to, or TAKING AWAY from the words of the BOOK!!!!?? They probably don’t even realize that’s EXACTLY what they’re doing. He said those things FOR A REASON, not just for the purpose of chastising the religious people in His day, but as a warning to future generations. He warned the disciples, and WE TOO are His disciples….to “beware the leaven of the Pharisees”.

        I would encourage you to go back to “Abide In Me” blog. (seashoremary) Myself and another commenter; “Jimmy” posted several links in our discussions which may be very helpful to you as far as research.

        The SINGLE MOST source, if I had to pick just one to convince you that ….even though Judaism CLAIMS the Torah and says it is their MAIN text; it would be this ..and it’s Jesus speaking; Matt. 5. And it’s really quite simple; If ANYONE REALLY believes the Word of God, whether it’s the first 5 chapters or the rest of it…ALL OF IT POINTS TO THE COMING OF THE MESSIAH – JESUS. If they REALLY believed what Moses wrote, they would be CHRISTIANS!!!! THEY ARE NOT!!! They reject Jesus as Messiah and have very evil things to say about Him TO THIS DAY!!! Nothing has changed!!! Jesus told them that ” I don’t accuse you; MOSES accuses you because He wrote of ME”!!!!! That RIGHT THERE tells you they DON’T believe the Torah, even though they claim it, the Talmud is their REAL MAIN TEXT!!! Just do a search…type in; “What the Talmud says about Jesus”. After all, every bit of the Holy Bible is about that One Man….Jesus. If they have it right, why are they STILL looking for the Messiah??? It is a very sad thing. My heart bleeds for them. I PRAY that they would ALL come to know the truth, but according to scripture, sadly, most will not. They will accept the WRONG guy!!

        Thank you, once again for having the courage to at least take this first step to the truth. Like I said before, most will NOT even go that far. That is also very sad. 2 Thes. chapter 2 comes to mind; God “gave them over to strong delusion that the will believe a lie because they loved NOT the truth”. Just my opinion, but I think the topic of “God’s Chosen One’s” and who they REALLY are is a BIG part of the strong delusion. There are MANY scriptures that tell us who the “chosen one’s” are and it’s NOT the one’s that most Christians think it is. Gal. 3:29 sums it up; “Ye who are IN CHRIST are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise”. That says it all, yet it is disregarded….WHY???

        Those who are IN CHRIST??? I’m pretty sure that would leave most “Jews” out, wouldn’t you say?? Abraham was the father of those with FAITH. He is called the “Father of Faith”, and if we believe and have faith in Jesus, WE ARE his seed. This is not a “physical” or “natural” family. It is a Spiritual family; the Family of God…..God’s Chosen; (Jesus speaking: ” My Kingdom is NOT of this world”)YOU and I, and also any other person, REGARDLESS of their nationality who believes on Him are His Chosen!!. What lies we have been told. How the TRUE Word of God has been TWISTED!!!

        Thank you Deon, God bless you!

        • dlundy1

          Thanks for your reply!

          I believe a Key take-away from all of this is the following…

          The Bible says clearly that all those who deny that Jesus as “The Christ’ — is the spirit of ANTI-Christ.

          Therefore the majority of MODERN Judaic beliefs are ANTI-christ.

          (1 John 2:22) “Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.”

          But we should also examine the next scripture very closely…

          (1 John 2:23) “Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.”

          this scripture tells us that all those who receive the son have received the father.

          With that being said, although some Christians may refer to themselves as “Judeo-Christian” — If they claim the name of Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior — they still belong to God.

          Therefore the only way they could be excluded from God’s grace is by rejecting Jesus (as many Jews have)

          “Judeo-Christian” is simply a title, no different from the words “Believer” or “Saint” — the only thing that really matters is what is BELIEVED.

          But I agree that it should be made known to Christians that there are some dangerous “Sects” of Judaism that actually contradict the Bible. I believe if we SHOW them this (in love) then they will see the need to differentiate themselves from this group.

          But even when sharing information like this with our brethren, It is important to do it within the “Love” of Christ. Therefore they will be willing to hear our words and receive the message that comes from God.

          In the writing “Judaism’s Strange Gods”, michael Hoffman immediately starts out by calling “Judeo-Christianity” a CULT.

          But how can anything involving the Death and resurrection of Christ be considered a “Cult”?

          We just read that anyone who RECEIVES the son receives the father

          (1 John 2:23) “Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:
          (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.”

          Some of our Christian brothers are unaware of some of the Pagan beliefs found in certain Judaic teachings — but to refer to them as “Cult” members simply because they called themselves Judeo-Christians is not only inaccurate, but it is offensive.

          Therefore because this message is not be shared in LOVE, many Christians are rejecting it.

          So lets continue to share the information, but lets do so in the Love of Christ.

          But I think it is important that we note that Judeo-Christianity is STILL Christianity at its CORE

          (No different from Methodist, Baptist, Non-denom., etc)

          so long as they believe that Jesus is the MESSIAH that died for the sins of humanity they are still included in the body of Christ.

          (Romans 10:9) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

          (Romans 10:10) For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

          (Romans 10:11) For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

          (Romans 10:12) For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

          (Romans 10:13) For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

          Therefore If a person continues to call themselves Judeo-Christian, they will enter into the kingdom of heaven exactly as a Christian would — So long as they place their Faith In Jesus Christ who is the Author and Finisher of our faith 🙂

          • rolltide

            I hear what you’re saying. But I would ask you this: What about “Chrislam”? The blending of Islam and Christianity? Is it a cult? Probably not. Is it an abomination to God? I would think so.
            That said; Islam DOES say nice things about Jesus. They don’t think He was the Son of God; which still makes it “antichrist”; but they say He was a good man and a prophet. Not so about Judaism. They say HORRIBLE things about Him, as I’m sure you will find out in your research. True believers don’t find it very hard to see the error of Chrislam, and rightly so. The problem is that these SAME true believers have NO problem calling THEMSELVES “Judeo-Christian”. But the thing about it is, they think if we don’t go along with EVERYTHING that the Jews and Israel does, God is gonna WHACK THEM!!! They have had it instilled in them that Israel is God’s chosen people and “YOU DON’T MESS WITH ISRAEL”!!! They don’t realize that there is a “physical” Israel, (state) and then there’s the Israel of God; which is God’s Chosen. It’s NOT that little piece of land in the middle east and it’s not the so-called Jewish people. It’s you and me, and everyone, including Jew/Gentile that believes and has Faith in His Son – Jesus God told Abraham; “you will be the Father of MANY nations”.
            The Judeo-Christian thing is just the tip of the iceberg. If you choose to research these things you will find that this is the mother-lode of ALL conspiracies. You will find that upwards of 85% of Jewry in the State of Israel, who call themselves “AshkeNAZI” Jews are NOT Jews AT ALL, but do lie!!! (The Holy Bible, and also Jesus speaking in Rev.2:9 and 3:9 uses the very SAME language and has a name for those people; “those who say they are Jews, but are NOT, but do lie” – the ‘synaGOGue of satan’)
            “Ashkenaz” is listed in Gen. 10 as the first grandson of JAPHETH. Biblical Jews came from the line of SHEM, thus the name Semite. So how can one call themselves Ashkenazi Jews???? It’s an oxymoron. You can’t be both!!!! Yet over 85% of so-called Jewry who say, “This land is our; God gave it to US”!!!! are NOT bloodline Jews at all, they are IMPOSTERS They say they are Jews, but they ARE NOT, but do lie!!! They, by the money and influence of the Rothschild’s in 1948 became a state and started inhabiting the Holy Land, killing the Palestinian’s, who had been there for thousands of years, taking over their land, and forcing them to live in a walled in area in inhumane conditions., all the time saying: “this land is ours, God gave it to us”!!! The Palestinian’s have more “Jewish” blood in them than these Askenazi “Jews”!!!
            These Ashkenazi’s are from eastern Europe and part of the old Soviet Bloc, known as the old Khazarian Empire. This is exactly the SAME area as the Bible says that the clan of Japheth settled in after they exited the arc. Japheth’s clan went north. If you read the family of Japheth in Gen. chapter 10, some interesting names come up…such as; Ashkenaz, MAGOG, (hmmmm) Meshesh, Tubal, etc….. Ring a bell??? Yes, the SAME bunch that Ez. 38 & 39 says will INVADE THE HOLY LAND IN THE LAST DAYS!!!
            Most folks think that is a prophecy that is YET to be fulfilled. NO; that prophecy began in 1897 continued on til Israel became a state in 1948 and continues even now. Israel is mostly comprised of MAGOG now!!! (Ashkenazi Jews) The synaGOGue of satan.
            So you see, this Judeo-Christian thing is just a speck. This thing GOES DEEP!!! A few years ago, I was where most Christians are today, I would set someone straight with a quickness that said ANYTHING negative about the Jews or Israel. I have spent MUCH time and effort to get to the truth. IT ROCKED MY LITTLE WORLD!!!!! Scriptures that left me scratching my head now make sense. Learning these things will make you do one of two things – 1) when your paradigm starts rockin’ & reelin’ you stop and try to forget that you were wrong and had fallen for lies…..your prideful ego won’t let you admit you were duped. 2) you swallow your pride, admit to yourself and God that you fell for it, and never REALLY searched these things out for yourself, and you start digging for MORE TRUTH. I chose #2, and that has been a while ago, and there’s more yet to be learned.
            With God Almighty as my Witness, I FEAR HIM, WITH ALL DUE REVERENCE. I FEAR MISUNDERSTANDING HIS WORD OR MISLEADING OTHERS. I DESIRE TO KNOW HIM BETTER, UNDERSTAND HIM MORE AND LOVE HIM MORE. I CANNOT lie to myself about these things. To misunderstand these things is to misinterpret His Word. WE HAVE BEEN LIED TOO!!! BOTTOM LINE!!! I just want to wake people up as to what’s REALLY going on. Most people shut me down. That’s one reason I am so thankful that you say you’re gonna do some research. I will tell you now, you WILL be shocked beyond recognition. You will have to decide between those 2 options that I mentioned, like it or not. If you don’t love truth, I suggest you don’t even start!!! But if you do, prepare yourself to be blasted and scourged by your brother’s and sister’s. Prepare to be called every name in the book! (including antisemetic, racist, and hater) It’s up to you. I hope you make the right choice. God bless you, and I will be praying for you!

          • dlundy1

            Thanks for your response,

            I don’t think that example is quite “Balanced” when comparing Judeo-Christianity to Chrislam.

            Here is why…

            Chrislam denies that Jesus is the Christ, they instead substitutes that he was one of God’s greatest prophets, but this is no different from Islam. Therefore Chrislam is simply another name for Islam that they are trying to drive into the Church.

            I agree that Islam denies that Jesus is the Christ, that is why this religion is ANTI-CHRIST.

            Judeo-Christianity is not so, they DO believe that Jesus is the Christ and the SON of God.

            Therefore According to the Bible — they belong to GOD.

            (1 John 2:22) “Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the
            Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.”

            (1 John 2:23) “Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:
            (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.”

            Therefore in order for the Bible to be TRUE — this statement made by John MUST be true.

            But I completely agree regarding the Christians that believe they must follow Jewish Customs — this could eventually lead them into some of the pagan teachings. But I believe this is why Christians should study the Bible thoroughly.

            The apostle Paul spoke of those men who try to bind the gentiles with the Jewish customs in order to be saved. The bible clearly states that he that is a jew is one INWARDLY.

            (Romans 2:28) For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

            (Romans 2:29) But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

            And John stated earlier that God had the power to turn even STONES into the descendants of Abraham!

            (Matthew 3:5) Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan,

            (Matthew 3:6) And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins.

            (Matthew 3:7) But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

            (Matthew 3:8) Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:

            (Matthew 3:9) And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

          • rolltide

            You said: “Judeo-Christianity is not so, they DO believe that Jesus is the Christ and the SON of God.”
            You have that half right. True CHRISTIANITY believes that Jesus is the Christ and the Son of God.
            Judaism, on the other hand DOES NOT, so how is it that this title “Judeo-Christian” came to be???
            I’ll tell you….IGNORANCE, and people buying into the lie that the Jews are the “Chosen One’s.
            Let me ask you a question. What is your opinion of Martin Luther? Do you think he was a man of God? As a young man, he wanted to better acquaint himself with the Jews and learn more about their religion. After spending years studying Judaism, he wrote a book about what he learned. The name of the book; ” The Jews and Their Lies”. Does that tell you anything? A simple search; typing, “quotes of Martin Luther on Judaism” should suffice….that is …if the title itself isn’t telling enough!! Anyone who digs ….just a little bit, who loves Jesus should want to separate this “Judeo” from their associated “religion”. Isn’t Jesus’ words that He told us about their religion enough to make us want NO PART in it?? Why is that SO HARD to understand?
            http://www.texemarrs.com/032014/evangelical_heresy.htm

          • dlundy1

            But lets narrow down what we are discussing because we both are going to deep in order to reach a similar conclusion.

            The Point that I am trying to make is this…

            ANY ONE who believes that Jesus is the Son of God, and receives him as their Lord and Savior — belongs to God.

            (1 John 4:1) “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

            (1 John 4:2) Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

            (1 John 4:3) And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.”

            ** Do you Agree with this, Or Disagree? **

          • rolltide

            Yes, I agree. But you are missing my point. The “Christian” part of the term “Judeo- Christian” ABSOLUTELY DOES believe that Jesus is the Son of God. And of course, I have no problem with that.
            But now, when you look at the “Judeo” part of it, it is ABSOLUTELY antichrist. So the point I’m trying to make is this; why would Christians even attach that name “Judeo” to their ‘title’??? What does light and dark have in common? NOTHING! You have the ONLY TRUE religion, if you want to call it that, attaching an antichrist religion to it’s name!! How can this be?? It’s heresy!!
            If this makes sense to ANY TRUE believer, the ONLY logical explanation I can come up with is that they are TOTALLY nieve about what Judaism teaches. I would HOPE that is the explanation!!! And….I would hope that if they DID know, they would call themselves that EVER AGAIN!!!
            Do you think God approves of a religion that rejects His Son??? Do you think He approves of His own people attaching themselves to a religion that does, be it Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, or ANY OTHER false religion??? I don’t understand why I am having to lay all of this out!!! It should be a no-brainer!!! What am I missing here??

          • dlundy1

            I am confident that I understand what you are saying.

            But I think you are missing what I was trying to display.

            Lets Break this Down:

            1.Judeo-Christianity may not be the best title for a born again Christian — AGREED.

            2. All those who place their faith in Christ belong to God — AGREED.

            We agree on all points. But the point that I am trying to make is this — A Christian calling themselves “Judeo-Christianity” will not hinder their ability to enter into the kingdom of God so long as they place their faith in Christ.

            Therefore if it is not detrimental to their Salvation — We should not “Beat them Up” over it. Instead we should simply show them the origins behind it and let the Holy-Spirit to convict them of it.

            I believe in this situation, we should apply the Apostle Paul’s teachings on MEAT…

            Some Christians thought it was a sin to eat certain meats — while some thought it was ok.

            But the conclusion that Paul came to was this…

            (Romans 14:1) Welcome those who are weak in faith, but do not argue with them about their personal opinions.

            (Romans 14:2) Some people’s faith allows them to eat anything, but the person who is weak in the faith eats only vegetables.

            (Romans 14:3) The person who will eat anything is not to despise the one who doesn’t; while the one who eats only vegetables is not to pass judgment on the one who will eat anything; for God has accepted that person.

            (Romans 14:4) Who are you to judge the servants of someone else? It is their own Master who will decide whether they succeed or fail. And they will succeed, because the Lord is able to make them succeed.

            (Romans 14:5) Some people think that a certain day is more important than other days, while others think that all days are the same. We each should firmly make up our own minds.

            (Romans 14:6) Those who think highly of a certain day do so in honor of the Lord; those who will eat anything do so in honor of the Lord, because they give thanks to God for the food. Those who refuse to eat certain things do so in honor of the Lord, and they give thanks to God.

            (Romans 14:7) We do not live for ourselves only, and we do not die for ourselves only.

            (Romans 14:8) If we live, it is for the Lord that we live, and if we die, it is for the Lord that we die. So whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.

          • rolltide

            Yes, Deon; I agree with you on all of that. My intention is NOT to bash anyone. My purpose was to shed light on just what Judaism is. We all know what Islam is. We all know what New Age is. We all know enough about most of the popular “religions to know that we don’t want to be associated with them. But most Christians will call themselves”Judeo-Christians”, and not give it a second thought. Why do you think that is? It’s because we’ve been lied to, not ONLY by the ‘usual suspects’ but by people we call our spiritual mentors, pastors, and religious leaders…..whether knowingly, or unknowingly.
            I was, for most of my life duped. I was raised in church and was taught that whatever the “Jews” do, and whatever Israel does is fine, and we are to BLESS them…no matter what. Then I started having questions about how could it POSSIBLY be the right thing to bless and condone some of the things that the State of Israel does.
            One of the “biggies'” for me that put me in the mode to find some answers was this. The United States, over the last several decades, some would say beyond that; has not missed out on one single opportunity to spit in the face of God. Would you agree? This was while I still had no idea about the things I now know. So here I was, having questions in the back of my mind about Israel and the Jews, after being raised to “tow the line” about that subject. Then I see that the US is doing EVERYTHING it possibly can to dis-invite God in every area, institution, government, schools, universities,…even in most of our churches. At the same time, I saw the US blessing everything Israel does, right or wrong. I see dual citizens of the US and Israel put into the highest offices in the land….and it got me to thinking even more asking myself this question: (While still of the mindset that we are to bless and honor Israel) “Here we are, a nation that has abandoned God and spit in his face at every opportunity, YET here we are fighting their wars, sending them money we don’t have, putting in dual citizens to the high offices whose FIRST loyalty is to Israel, and “blessing” them to no end, DID WE GET THIS ONE RIGHT???????!!!!!!!! That is what started me on this journey, and I really didn’t know what I was getting myself into!! Sometimes I wonder; if I hadv’e known, would I still ahve dug into it, or would I just have left it alone?? I’ll be honest with you, sometimes I regret that I ever questioned. Because once you learn of all these things, you’ll never look at things the same again! This thing goes SO deep, you have no idea.
            But mostly, I’m glad I did, because now, scripture that didn’t quite “add up”, as I had been taught now falls into place. I have a fairly good overview of prophecy, which is something I have been eager to understand since my youth. I have realized that the satanic agenda that we are up against has infiltrated EVERY AREA of our lives….including our religious beliefs.
            I learned that the Rothschild’s, who by the way are Ashkenazi Jews were responsible for the State of Israel being born in 1948, not God. I learned that God gave the Jews the land, with conditions which they haven’t met. He tells them in Deut. 28 the blessings they will have ………IF!!!! He also tells them what would happened…..IF. That IF is whether the were in OBEDIENCE to Him……OR NOT. He exiled them because they did NOT obey, and continue to this day to be in disobedience. God exiled them in 70 AD. But Rothschild’s, with all their money and power defied God’s judgement, and set up a homeland for their “Jewish Utopia New World Order” which they want eventually to rule the world from Jerusalem, of course with their “Messiah”. (antichrist)
            The Rothschild’s put their own Family insignia on the Israeli flag, the 6 pointed star, the hexagram. (It isn’t the ‘star of David, that’s another lie) Rothschild is known as the “King of Israel”. Eventually, he wants it called “House of Rothschild”. This is the ‘synagogue of satan’, and most Christians are blessing it, because we have been lied to from the pulpits.
            Can you see the dangerous possibilities here? This could lead to MANY being deceived into following the WRONG GUY; just like the Jews will do. (for the most part) It is UNREAL how deep all of this goes.
            So NO, I’m not so upset about the believers calling themselves Judeo-Christian, I’m upset about the thing as a whole, and I realize you don’t know what I’m talking about. But if you just start somewhere, looking into certain things, it’s gonna lead you into more things. Things that everyone NEEDS to know, but will not even ask questions, in MOST cases. They just “tow the Zionist line” like good little sheeple, like I used to. Little do they know, it could cost them their lives and more importantly, their souls. That is why I’m so ticked off. I try to share these things with ANYONE who will listen and start a fire in them to get to the truth. That’s my intention. My heart BREAKS that people are so blind!!!
            If I can say something, post a link, or ask a question on your’s or seashoremary, or any other place that will cause someone start investigating, that might be one person that is spared. I care enough about people that being called names and being shut down and ridiculed matters NOT in comparison to planting seeds of truth that MIGHT save just one
            Sorry so long-winded, but these things I’ve been talking about are just the tip of the iceberg., and I want to help people, even if it leaves me feeling shunned, and singled out.
            As a friend of mine, who also is aware of all this would say, “when someone’s house is on fire, you don’t go roast marshmallows with them ……you go screaming; YOUR HOUSE IS ON FIRE”.

          • dlundy1

            STATEMENT: One of the “biggies'” for me that put me in the mode to find some answers was this. The United States, over the last several decades, some would say beyond that; has not missed out on one single opportunity to spit in the face of God. Would you agree?

            REPLY: During the last Decade, yes I would agree.

            STATEMENT:Then I see that the US is doing EVERYTHING it possibly can to dis-invite God in every area, institution, government, schools, universities,…even in most of our churches. At the same time, I saw the US blessing everything Israel does, right or wrong.

            REPLY: This is party true. But It is not the US Government that blesses Israel, It is the Christians in AMERICA that stand with Israel. Therefore to keep from upsetting the people, the government backs Israel. Not to mention that Israel is the Only DEMOCRATIC nation in the Middle East — So we being called the “Land of the Free” have no choice but to stand with them.

            STATEMENT: I learned that the Rothschild’s, who by the way are Ashkenazi Jews were responsible for the State of Israel being born in 1948, not God.

            REPLY: your statement is contradictory to the Bible. God promised the Jews that HE would bring them back into their own land. (Although it is possible that he used them as a tool)

            (Amos 9:14) And I will bring again the captivity of my people of
            Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and
            they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also
            make gardens, and eat the fruit of them.

            (Amos 9:15) And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of
            their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.

            Here we see that It was GOD who promised to bring them back into their LAND. (remember, we must ALWAYS let the Bible be the Final Authority.)

            STATEMENT: if you just start somewhere, looking into certain things, it’s gonna lead you into more things.

            REPLY: We must be careful what we are lead into, although I agree with some of the points that you made about the “Doctrines of Man” that are taught in some Judaic teachings — It seems as if some of the other teachings that you have found were sprinkled with some anti-semitic ideologies.

            Think about This…

            God told the Jews that after their exile, he would bring them back into their own land. And he did in 1960, there are only a remnant of them left. If the Nation of Israel’s rebirth is not the jewish people — then that would mean that God lied about bringing them back into their own land.

            Today — There is a WAR going on between the Jews and ALL THOSE AROUND them. This was another prophecy that JESUS foretold.

            (Luke 21:20) And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

            (Luke 21:21) Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and
            let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that
            are in the countries enter thereinto.

            All the Muslim Nations of the Mid-East are going to rise against Israel in the Last day — and God will fight for them. (this too is foretold).

            STATEMENT: I try to share these things with ANYONE who will listen and start a fire in them to get to the truth. That’s my intention. My heart BREAKS that people are so blind!!!

            REPLY: Sometimes we have good intentions, but our good intentions are misdirected. The Apostle Paul killed MANY Christians in his ZEAL FOR GOD. But as we both know — his zeal was in his confusion because he thought he knew something that he did not.

            More Thinking:

            – It is true that the Anti-christ is going to take over Jerusalem, but many bible scholars believe that this man will be the MUSLIM messiah. You should Checkout a man by the name of WALID SHOEBAT who was converted from Islam to Christianity — he does an excellent teaching on the subject.

            But As we both agree, he that is a Jew is one INWARDLY — But we can rest assured that those who are in Israel are there because GOD placed them there (using whatever method he saw fit)

          • rolltide

            Your REPLY: This is
            party true. But It is not the US Government that blesses Israel, It is
            the Christians in AMERICA that stand with Israel. Therefore to keep from
            upsetting the people, the government backs Israel. Not to mention that
            Israel is the Only DEMOCRATIC nation in the Middle East — So we being
            called the “Land of the Free” have no choice but to stand with them.

            MINE: Since WHEN does
            it matter to the
            government WHAT “WE THE PEOPLE” think?; especially
            Christian people? How is it that this is the ONLY issue that Zionist
            Evangelical Christians and the government seem to be in agreement on?? Everything else, they are complete opposite. HMMMM Why
            is it that?
            “Jews”, who make up less than 2% of the population, hold the highest
            positions in OUR government? Some of them dual-citizens? What if JUST
            ONE
            government official was a dual citizen for…let’s say IRAN???? Our
            government is SATURATED with Israeli dual citizens!! Who do you think they are most loyal to???

            Your REPLY: your statement is contradictory to the Bible. God promised the Jews that HE would bring them back into their own land.

            MINE: Would
            you agree that according to Gen.10 that “Askenazi” was of the clan of Japheth, in fact, Japheth’s first listed grandson?

            Genesis 10

            King James Version (KJV)

            10 Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood.

            2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.

            3 And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.

            So…….are we in agreement that Ashkenazi WAS NOT from the clan of SHEM?? (Semite)

            Ashkenazi “Jews” make up more than 85% of Jewry in Israel today.

            SO….is
            it fair to say that they ARE NOT Semite??? (from the line of Shem??)
            Come on now!! Be honest. Look at the Bible text!!!

            SO….If God brought these Ashkenazi’s to the land, wouldn’t you say He made a mistake??? IF INDEED THIS WAS HIS DOINGS!!!!!!

            You
            can only come to two different scenarios here: 1) God made a mistake and
            brought the WRONG people to the land; or 2) There’s a WHOLE LOT of
            humans including Christians who have mis-interpreted Bible prophecy!

            Which do YOU think it is?? I KNOW what I think!!!

            Let me remind you what JESUS said:
            He is saying that the POPULAR way isn’t necessarily the RIGHT way, and
            the interpretation that you seem to have is the same that I USED to
            have, and is the way MOST Evangelicals believe. So it is
            DEFINITELY the POPULAR belief. But is it correct??? There isn’t ALWAYS
            safety in numbers!!!

            Matthew 7:14

            King James Version (KJV)

            14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

            As far as the Amos text, how can you be so sure that is not a FUTURE event??…….As in
            the same time that Jesus was referring to when He said, “you shall not see me again until you say; blessed is
            He that cometh in the Name of the Lord”???

            Doesn’t
            satan counterfeit the things of God?? Do you think he doesn’t have his
            minion human servants, who have enough money and power to pull off some
            counterfeit biblical prophecies? What was the FIRST thing that Jesus
            told His disciples to to beware of when they asked Him about the
            end of the age in Matt.24? “See that no man DECEIVE you”. He warned
            about DECEPTION REPEATEDLY in this chapter. This is a HUGE deception and
            I wouldn’t be surprised if it were NOT the “strong delusion” that EVEN
            the ELECT
            would fall for………THEY
            ARE!!!!!!!!

            Your REPLY: Sometimes we have good intentions, but our good intentions are misdirected.

            Mine:
            Who’s to say that it is mine that is misdirected. I used to “tow the
            popular line”. I know VERY WELL the popular belief, it used to be mine
            and could argue with the best of them to defend it…..UNTIL I dug deep,
            and YES the Holy Bible is the BOTTOM LINE for me. If it doesn’t line up
            with the Bible, out the window it goes. Do I need to quote
            Jesus again about the straight and narrow way, and FEW there be that find it. That tells me that the MAJORITY is wrong!!!

            YOUR RELPY: It is true that the Anti-christ is going to take over Jerusalem, but
            many bible scholars believe that this man will be the MUSLIM messiah.
            You should Checkout a man by the name of WALID SHOEBAT who was converted
            from Islam to Christianity — he does an excellent teaching on the
            subject.

            MINE: I am familiar with Shoebat but I’d rather believe what Daniel the prophet said:

            Daniel 11:37

            New King James Version (NKJV)
            37 He shall regard neither the God
            of his fathers.
            Who
            are “his fathers”????? They are Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the father’s
            of faith. That tells me he will be a Jew. How else could it be that the
            Jews except him as the Messiah. Do you REALLY think they would except a
            Muslim??? I would think that would be the VERY FIRST “smell test” for
            them, wouldn’t you????

            As far as your calling me antisemetic,…….if the people I am referring to were REAL Jews, it might be that my comments are antisemetic. I am talking about “those they say they are Jews, but ARE NOT, that DO LIE”!!!!! (Rev. 2:9) I am talking about FAKE JEWS…..the imposters that occupy of the land of Israel, from the clan of Japheth, from the land of MAGOG; the “synagogue of satan”. I DO NOT BLESS THEM AS MOST CHRISTIANS DO!!!!

          • rolltide

            Oops, I left one out!

            You SAID:REPLY: We must be
            careful what we are lead into, although I agree with some of the points
            that you made about the “Doctrines of Man” that are taught in some
            Judaic teachings — It seems as if some of the other teachings that you
            have found were sprinkled with some anti-semitic ideologies.

            ME:
            “Sprinkled with some anti-semetic ideologies”?? What I am about to post
            is probably the harshest things I’ve posted YET! Low and behold, they
            came from the mouth of JESUS. And this is only from one chapter in the
            Gospels; Matt.23. There are MANY MORE! Would you call HIS words
            “anti-semitic ideology”? Would He be guilty of a “hate crime” today?
            Would Evangelicals scourge Him for not blessing the Jews?…………PROBABLY!!

            JESUS UPBRAIDS THE CHURCH LEADERS

            There are many examples of Jesus
            upbraiding the Church leaders for their gross sins [selections from Matthew 23]:

            “But WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees,
            HYPOCRITES… FOR YOU SHUT UP THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN AGAINST MEN…

            …THEY BIND HEAVY BURDENS and GRIEVOUS to be
            borne, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but will not move them with ONE OF THEIR
            FINGERS

            WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees,
            HYPOCRITES… you DEVOUR WIDOW’S HOUSES… you shall receive the greater
            damnation.

            WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees,
            HYPOCRITES…

            WOE unto you, ye BLIND GUIDES…

            You FOOLS AND BLIND…

            WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES!
            You… have omitted… JUDGMENT, MERCY, and FAITH…

            You BLIND GUIDES, which strain out a gnat, and
            SWALLOW A CAMEL.

            WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees,
            HYPOCRITES… within they are full of EXTORTION AND EXCESS.

            You BLIND PHARISEES…

            WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! You
            are FULL OF DEAD MEN’S BONES, and ALL UNCLEANESS… and HYPOCRISY and
            INIQUITY…

            WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees,
            HYPOCRITES!… you are the children of them which KILLED the prophets. FILL YOU UP then
            the measure of your fathers.

            You SERPENTS, you GENERATION OF SNAKES… you
            KILL AND CRUCIFY… you SCOURGE in your synagogues… Behold your house is left unto
            you DESOLATE”!!

            That’s some HEAVY DUTY “anti-semitism” isn’t it?? Was HE wrong?

          • dlundy1

            STATEMENT Since WHEN does
            it matter to the government WHAT “WE THE PEOPLE” think?; especially Christian people?

            REPLY : since they want to keep the people from turning against them. Some things they can get away with, but this is not one.They don’t want a massive civil unrest until the economy collapses.

            STATEMENT How is it that this is the ONLY issue that Zionist
            Evangelical Christians and the government seem to be in agreement on?? Everything else, they are complete opposite. HMMMM

            REPLY : I am not a Zionist Christian, yet I support Israel. What is your definition of Zionist? But this is just speculation.

            STATEMENT why is it that? “Jews”, who make up less than 2% of the population, hold the highest
            positions in OUR government?

            REPLY : There are Jews who live in this nation who were born here, therefore it is nothing strange about them holding a high position just like it is nothing strange about an african american being the president.

            STATEMENT Some of them dual-citizens? What if JUST
            ONE government official was a dual citizen for…let’s say IRAN???? Our
            government is SATURATED with Israeli dual citizens!! Who do you think they are most loyal to???

            REPLY : Again, this is speculation — but With that said, Iran is NOT an ALLY to the United States, they are an adversary. Therefore of course they would not be permitted to have dual citizenship.

            Israel however is an ALLY to the United States — therefore why shouldn’t they be able to be dual citizens? This is no secret, there are many Canadians who live in America but are Dual citizens. Why do you feel that Israel is against America? They rely on us heavily — but we are Sister nations.

            STATEMENT Would you agree that according to Gen.10 that “Askenazi” was of the clan of Japheth, in fact, Japheth’s first listed grandson?

            REPLY : I agree that “Ashkenaz” (not askenazi) was the Son of Gomer and Gomer was the son of Japheth.

            STATEMENT So…….are we in agreement that Ashkenazi WAS NOT from the clan of SHEM?? (Semite)

            REPLY : Yes, we are.

            STATEMENT Ashkenazi “Jews” make up more than 85% of Jewry in Israel today.

            REPLY : This is speculation, you would need to provide credible evidence to support this ideology.

            STATEMENT SO….is it fair to say that they ARE NOT Semite??? (from the line of Shem??)

            REPLY : No, Its not fair to say because this claim is not supported by Evidence. Although I have not yet performed research, I am fairly certain that it is not accurate. If Jews only make up 2% of Earth’s population — and if 85% of that remaining 2% of Jews are NOT JEWS then that means the number of Jews is Nearly ZERO and will eventually reach 0 in a few decades. And that would mean that the Bible is INACCURATE because God failed to preserve a remnant of his people. If the Jews aren’t back in THEIR land — but instead FAKE jews are in the land, then that means God has not fulfilled his word.

            Understand what I’m saying?

            STATEMENT SO….If God brought these Ashkenazi’s to the land, wouldn’t you say He made a mistake??? IF INDEED THIS WAS HIS DOINGS!!!!!!

            REPLY : Remeber, you based that on the assumption that 85% of Jews are ashkenazi-Jews which is not proven.

            But to answer you — Yes, that would be a mistake — This is why I believe the JEWS in the land are ACTUAL Jews.

            STATEMENT As far as your calling me antisemetic

            REPLY : This is false, I did not call you anti-semitic. I simply stated that some of your beleifs are similar to those held by those who are antisemitic.

            STATEMENT That’s some HEAVY DUTY “anti-semitism” isn’t it?? Was HE wrong?

            REPLY : Jesus wasn’t saying that because they were Jews, he was saying that because they were HYPOCRITES who tried to hide the truth from God’s people. Therefore No- that wasn’t anti-semitism. But you are directing your concept at Jews in GENERAL. That is the difference.

            STATEMENT I am talking about “those they say they are Jews, but ARE NOT, that DO LIE”!!!!!

            REPLY We agree that there are some Fake Jews, These “Fake” jews are the Rothschilds, Builderburgers, and other illuminati bloodlines. But I absolutely would not go as far as to say that 85% of the jews in Israel are apart of this bloodline.

            You should do some research on a fellow named “John Todd” who left the Illuminati and found Christ — he talks about these fake Jews and their plans for Israel and the Entire World.

          • rolltide

            Message Body

            This from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews

            “It is estimated that in the 11th century Ashkenazi Jews composed only three percent of the world’s Jewish population,
            while at their peak in 1931 they accounted for 92 percent of the
            world’s Jews. Immediately prior to the Holocaust, the number of
            Ashkenazi Jews stood at approximately 16.7 million.[20] Statistical figures vary for the contemporary demography of Ashkenazi Jews, oscillating between 10[1] and 11.2[2] million. Sergio DellaPergola in a rough calculation of Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews, implies that Ashkenazi make up around 74%
            of Jews worldwide.[21] Other estimates place Ashkenazi Jews as making up about 75% of Jews worldwide.[22] Ashkenazi Jews constitute around 35–36% of Israel’s total population, or 47.5% of Israel’s Jewish population.”[23][24]

            Here
            it says close to half of Jewry in Israel is
            Ashkenazi. We’ve already established the fact (according to the FINAL
            AUTHORITY, the
            Bible) that
            Ashkenaz was the grandson of Japheth, NOT SHEM!!! Thus they are NOT
            descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, from whom the Semite nation
            came. The Semites, TRUE JEWS came from the linage of SHEM. The Bible
            CLEARLY says that Ashkenaz was the grandson of Japheth; YET these
            descendants of Japheth call themselves Ashkenazi Jews!!! That is
            IMPOSSIBLE!!! You cannot be BOTH. If you are descended from Ashkean, you
            aren’t a Jew., and if you’re truly a Jew, Japtheth is NOT your
            ancestor……SHEM would be!!! Is it so hard to figure this out?

            Although
            here in Wikipedia says just about half of the “Jews” in Israel are
            Ashkenazi, I have read book after book, which I cannot show you that
            says upwards of 85% of them are, including every prime minister they’ve
            had since 1948. Take a look at that
            Wikipedia paragraph. It
            says Ashkenazi Jews make up 74% of Jews WORLDWIDE!!!! Do these
            numbers tell you anything?
            Even if it were just half, as this says, isn’t
            that disturbing enough?? Half are imposters!!!! God didn’t promise the land to fake Jews!!!

            How can people RETURN to place they’ve NEVER BEEN????….Please!!!

            This is also from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_Ashkenazi_Jews I’ll copy/paste JUST the Politicians.

            Politicians

            Chaim Weizmann – first President of Israel (1949–52)

            Yitzhak Ben-Zvi – first elected/second president President of Israel (1952–63)

            David Ben-Gurion – first Prime Minister of Israel (1948–54, 1955–63)

            Moshe Sharett – prime minister (1954–55)

            Levi Eshkol – prime minister (1963–69)

            Golda Meir – prime minister (1969–74)

            Yitzhak Rabin – prime minister (1974–77, 1992–95); Nobel Peace Prize (1994) (assassinated November 1995)

            Menachem Begin – prime minister
            (1977–83); Nobel Peace Prize (1978)

            Yitzhak Shamir – prime minister (1983–84, 1986–92)

            Shimon Peres – President of Israel (2007–); prime minister (1984–86, 1995–96); Nobel Peace Prize
            (1994)

            Benjamin Netanyahu – prime minister (1996–99), (2009–); was minister of finance; Likud party chairman

            Ehud Barak – prime minister (1999–01)

            Ariel Sharon – prime minister (2001–06)

            Ehud Olmert – prime minister (2006–09); former mayor of Jerusalem

            Rehavam Zeevi – founder of the Moledet party (assassinated October 2001)

            Yossi Beilin – leader of the Meretz-Yachad party and peace negotiator

            Yosef Lapid – former leader of the Shinui party

            Teddy Kollek – former mayor of Jerusalem

            I think it is safe to say that Israeli leadership, from the beginning; 1948, has been those who say
            they are Jews but ARE NOT, but DO LIE!!!

            Do
            you know that most of these people listed changed their last names to
            sound “more Jewish”???!!! Do I need to go find a link for that too? Very
            well; Here you go! Famous Jews who changed their names:

            Famous Jews who changed their names

            This 13′ 11″ video was published by ladyknowz on May 1, 2012: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zS7aMGByxY

            Publisher’s comments:

            http://ziomania.com

            The
            following are famous Jews who changed their names. The list is
            actually only the tip of the ice burg of the number of Jews who change
            their names.
            Joan Crawford
            Winona Ryder
            Charles Bronson
            Cary Grant
            Leslie Howard
            Buddy Hackett
            Bob Dylan
            Larry King
            Woody Allen
            Joan Rivers
            Mary Hart
            Shelley Berkley
            Natasha Lyonne
            Robby Benson
            Sean Kanan
            Brad Garrett
            Arianne Zucker
            Ione Skye
            Lindsay Sloane
            Samantha Harris
            Selma Blair
            Geraldo Rivera
            Jerry Lewis
            Michael Ian Black
            Gene Wilder
            George Burns
            Howard Cosell
            Dinah Shore
            Jason Alexander
            Barbara Hershey
            Jack Benny
            Kirk Douglas
            Judy Garland
            Judy Holliday
            Lorne Green
            Jon Stewart
            Joyce Brothers
            Mel Brooks
            Rodney Dangerfield
            Milton Berle
            Tony Curtis
            Tony Randall
            Walter Matthau
            Sumner Murray Redstone
            Michael Landon
            Ann Landers
            Abigail Van Buren (Dear Abby)
            Danny Kaye
            Jill St. John
            Shelley Winters
            Lauren Bacall
            Michael Oren
            Boney James
            Ron Owenns
            Michael Savage
            Kenny G
            Albert Brooks
            Peter Coyote
            Elliott Gould
            Steve Lawrence
            Jerry Douglas
            Anson Williams
            Frank Oz
            Lee Grant
            Lainie Kazan
            Robert Trebor
            Estelle Harris
            Dyan Cannon
            Annie Sprinkle
            Jane Seymour
            Benjamin Netanyahu
            Ehud Barak
            Ariel Sharon
            Levi Eshkol
            Moshe Sharett
            David Ben Gurion
            Golda Meir
            Shimon Peres
            Menachem Begin
            Yitzhak Shamir

            You don’t seem to understand that it is NOT REAL Jews that I have a problem with. I am NOT racist. I am NOT anti-semetic, and I do NOT hate ANYONE.
            But lies are lies….I don’t care WHO you are!!!! And Jesus warned us in
            the end times to beware of deception. This is a BIG one!!! And almost
            all Christians are vexed by this deception. Believe me, I’ve done my homework and still continue, have YOU checked these things out? The Holy Bible is ALWAYS the filter I use.

            You asked: “What is your definition of Zionism”. Here you go. Zionism is man’s attempt to do what God said HE WOULD DO!!!! Including establishing HIS PEOPLE in the land. According to a conservative Wikipedia; half of them now….including all their leaders are FAKE JEWS!!!! Did God do that???!!! I DON’T THINK SO!!! God don’t make mistakes!

            Now….let me ask you a question. Who is the synagogue of satan? Who do you say fits that definition that Jesus gave in Rev. 2:9 and 3:9?

            You also asked; “Why do you feel that Israel is an enemy”?

            We are their PUPPETS. We are their “useful idiots”! Take for instance B. Netanyahu quote:
            “When we squeeze all we can out of the United States, they can dry up and blow away”!!!

            We fight their wars, they don’t send their OWN to die, or do their killing. That has been true since the days of Jesus. They demanded Barabas be released and demanded that somebody else kill Jesus!!! Nothing has changed!!!
            Where do you think they get all of their sophisticated weaponry? Who GIVES them billions of $$$$ every year???
            Well……The US is BROKE and our military is being disabled, so…..as far as they are concerned, they HAVE squeezed just about all they can out of us, AND WE ARE DRYING UP QIUCKLY!!!

          • dlundy1

            Statement: This from Wikipedia

            Reply: Wikipedia would not be considered a credible source simply because I could literally log into the website and change that Content.

            But note that an “Estimate” is simply a “Guess” — but I would be interested to know where that information came from. But as I said earlier, I will conduct research on the topic.

            Statement: here in Wikipedia says just about half of the “Jews” in Israel are
            Ashkenazi, I have read book after book, which I cannot show you that
            says upwards of 85% of them are, including every prime minister they’ve
            had since 1948.

            Reply: What is the Name of the Book? I will be sure to check it out in my research.

            Statement: Believe me, I’ve done my homework and still continue, have YOU checked these things out? The Holy Bible is ALWAYS the filter I use.

            Reply: It is good that the Bible is always your filter, this will ensure that we can always come to a single conclusion regarding these topics. But in response to your research comment, I have not looked into the topic — but I do acknowledge that some of the things you are saying contradicts scripture. So since we both have a common ROOT (which is the Bible) — we can come to agree that the bible is always correct.

            EX: You stated that God did NOT put the Jews in Israel, it was the Satan worshipping Rothschilds. But I showed you that God said that HE would bring the jews back into their land. (in Amos)

            But although I believe you have done your research, I would like to check out the credibility of the sources you have gotten your info from. (Wikipedia is not considered ‘Credible’).

            Statement: According to a conservative Wikipedia; half of them now….including all their leaders are FAKE JEWS!!!! Did God do that???!!! I DON’T THINK SO!!! God don’t make mistakes!

            Reply: again, wikipedia is not credible. In order for something to check out — you should find at LEAST 3 other sources that “Backs” your primary source. When you want someone to adopt your belief, you CAN’T just expect them to “Take your word” for it — but you MUST provide UNDENIABLE evidence that supports your stance.

            Right now you are making some GROUND-SHATTERING claims but only giving me Wikipedia (which is not crediblee) as your source.

            Statement: Who is the synagogue of satan? Who do you say fits that definition that Jesus gave in Rev. 2:9 and 3:9?

            Reply: Those who have chosen to worship Satan. lets just say the “Illuminati” for simplicity’s sake.

            Statement: We are their PUPPETS. We are their “useful idiots”!

            Reply: This is an opinion.

            Statement: Netanyahu quote:
            “When we squeeze all we can out of the United States, they can dry up and blow away”

            Reply: Cite your Source.

            Statement: The US is BROKE and our military is being disabled, so…..as far as they are concerned, they HAVE squeezed just about all they can out of us, AND WE ARE DRYING UP QIUCKLY

            Reply: Its not the Jews who are destroying this nation, it is the Synagogue of Satan “Illuminati”. God is using as a tool to CHASTEN this nation for turning against him after he blessed us so mightily. It is Bible Prophecy

            Statement: Who controls Hellywood, the media, and music industry, and just about all BIG corporations?? I’ll give you ONE guess.

            Reply: The Elites — some of them are Jews, some of them are not. But you cannot classify this organization as JEWS in general. That is what Adolph Hitler did before he placed them in the concentration camps for “Disposal”.

            Think about This

            If the Jews have been running the world all along — What 11 million people did Adolph hitler Kill??

            It just doesn’t make much sense when you think about it critically.

            Statement: I don’t know what else I could say to you to at least make you ask some questions! I’m not asking you to believe me. I will be VERY satisfied if you and any of your readers would just go type in some of this stuff and FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF!!! I DID!!!

            Reply: You can’t believe everything you hear. But I will look into it. Please provide any sources you have used to come to this conclusion. I will check them out and verify them. But I can’t express how important it is to verify your sources.

            Some of the Things you are saying sounds as if it could be contradictory to our Christian Belief.

          • rolltide

            I HIGHLY
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            recently on Amazon. I will find you more links to other resources. My
            computer, right now is acting strange and won’t save my draft to go get
            others to put in this one post, so I will do them one at a time….I
            guess. It seems that “someone” might not like what I’m talking about. More on it’s way soon.

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          • rolltide

            Here is a sample of the online PDF (free) book “Synagogue of Satan” by Andrew Hitchcock

            The Synagogue of Satan 740-1818.

            The Khazarian King,
            King Bulan
            , decided in order to protect themselves against attack, the
            Khazarian people must convert to one of these faiths, but which one? If they converted to the
            Muslim faith they would risk attack by the Christians and if they converted to the Christian faith
            they would risk attack by the Muslims.
            He had an idea. There was another race that he was aware were able to deal with both the Muslims
            and the Christians either side of him, predominantly in matters of trade. A race which also dealt
            with Khazarians in the same manner. That race was the Jews. King Bulan decided if he instructed
            his people to convert to Judaism he could keep both the Muslims and the Christians happy, as they
            were both already willing to trade with the Jews, so this is what he did.
            King Bulan was right. He would live to see his country unconquered, his people convert to Judaism
            enthusiastically and adopt the principles of the most holy Jewish book, the
            Talmud
            . There are
            many things the king would not live to see, however.
            He would not live to see his Asiatic race of converts to Judaism, one day represent 90% of all the
            Jews on the planet, and call themselves
            Ashkenazi
            Jews, when in fact they were not Jews, but
            simply an Asiatic race of people who converted to the Jewish religion, whilst still continuing to
            speak the Khazarian language of
            Yiddish
            , totally different to the language of
            Hebrew
            .
            He would not live to see his people turn to the descendants of a man, far more powerful than him,
            who would be born just over 1,000 years later in Germany, a man named Bauer, who would spawn
            the Rothschild dynasty.
            He would not live to see this dynasty usurp the wealth of the world through deception and intrigue,
            which they would finance through the vast riches they accumulate as they usurp the wealth of the
            world by gaining control of the world

            s money supply.
            He would not live to see his people demand a homeland for themselves in Palestine as their
            birthright, and ensure every Prime Minister there from its inception in 1948 is an Ashkenazi Jew,
            even though the true homeland of the Ashkenazi Jews, Khazaria, is his kingdom, some 800 miles
            away.
            And he would not live to see his people fulfil bible prophecy, as the,

            Synagogue of Satan.

          • rolltide

            I have only read the first 2 chapters of this one so far. He explains how in 126 BC, the Edomites, Esau; meaning “red” were the Amelikites and they were given the option to be “absorbed” into Jewry, or be killed by the Macabees. Their “leader” was called “AGAG”; which is the same as calling one a president, or in Russia, a czar. Agag was the leader of the Amelikites, it is also “GOG”. In the Book of Numbers 24:7, the Septuagint, which translated Bible scriptures by Jewish scholars, from Hebrew to Greek, actually uses the word “GOG” instead of “Agag”. Again, it was Jews that translated it.They weren’t Jews but they got absorbed into Jewry. Very interesting so far. It is called “Matrix” of Magog” http://www.amazon.com/The-Matrix-Gog-Khazars-Destroy-ebook/dp/B00JKNRHOU
            Flavius Josephus, in his writings records the 126BC event. So here non-Jews; in fact, the Edomites became “Jews”!!!! Were they REAL Jews? NO!! They were forced to convert to Judaism and be circumcised or be killed….so they became JEWS!!!! OUTWARD Jews!!!!

            REAL JEWS are Jews INWARDLY, meaning this is a SPIRITUAL NATION!! NOT a physical nation. There are VERY FEW bloodline “Jews” left. Jesus told them in Matt.23 that their house was left to them DESOLATE. That’s EXACTLY what happened.

          • rolltide

            This is an online resource….VERY well researched. This is the link to part one. At the end of part one, you can click on part two. If you REALLY want to know the history, I HIGHLY suggest you read one and two. http://www.apfn.org/thewinds/library/khazars.html

          • dlundy1

            Answer These Question:

            1. Did God Put the Jews Back in Israel?
            2. Should we Go to War with the Jews?
            3. Is the Bible Free from Error?
            4. If the Jews aren’t in Israel, Where are they?
            5. If the Jews aren’t in Israel, Doesn’t that mean God Lied?

          • rolltide

            Answer These Question:

            1. Did God Put the Jews Back in Israel? Not yet.
            2. Should we Go to War with the Jews? Not unless we want the whole world destroyed. Look up “Operation Samson Project”
            3. Is the Bible Free from Error? Yes…depending on the version.
            4. If the Jews aren’t in Israel, Where are they? Scattered
            5. If the Jews aren’t in Israel, Doesn’t that mean God Lied? No…Ez. 39 says “HE” will bring them back ….AFTER Gog/Magog, which is happening and has been since 1948 and perhaps beyond that…1897.

            But would He bring the synagogue of satan back by mistake? NO…This is Zionism, which is MAN’S ATTEMPT to do what GOD said HE would do. Scripture has been mis-interpreted.

          • dlundy1

            You have an interesting ideology, but time will tell whether the Jews are actually Jews.

            Do you believe that the Land that Israel is occupying actually belongs to the Palestinians?

          • rolltide

            I believe they have more right to be there than these imposters do. After all, they HAVE been there for thousands of years. That’s my opinion, but here’s my FINAL ANSWER:

            Psalm 24

            King James Version (KJV)

            24 The earth is the Lord’s, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.

            2 For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods.

            3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the Lord? or who shall stand in his holy place?

            4 He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.

            5 He shall receive the blessing from the Lord, and righteousness from the God of his salvation.

            6 This is the generation of them that seek him, that seek thy face, O Jacob. Selah.

            7 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.

            8 Who is this King of glory? The Lord strong and mighty, the Lord mighty in battle.

            9 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.

            10 Who is this King of glory? The Lord of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah.

            Verse 1 is my answer, with much emphasis on verses 3&4

          • rolltide

            Here’s ANOTHER resource: http://www.atam.org/Israel2.html

            (Web Blog)

            ISRAEL IN PROPHECY – Part 2

            JULY 6, 2011

            Our Intent is to show the Israel in prophecy based on the Bible- history
            and science, and show why there seems to be so much confusion there
            that affects Global Stability & Peace.

            [Warning! All sacred cows are subject to being joyfully and lovingly
            slaughtered as an act of LOVE during this and the next several blogs]. :
            – )

            We ended yesterdays Blog with some provocative questions that many in
            Christianity due to the strong delusion never seem to ask themselves or
            others.

            WHO ARE THOSE PEOPLE OCCUPYING THE LAND OF PALESTINE TODAY THAT HAVE HI-JACKED THE NAME ISRAEL?

            In unison this question would be answered by about 90% of Christians, “They are God’s chosen people”, “They are the lost tribes of Israel”, “They are the descendants of Abraham, Issac and Jacob”.
            If you thought or answered either of the (3) answers or anything
            similar – You Are Wrong, move to the end of the line and try again. You
            are repeating or thinking the Deceitful Lies that the public has been
            fed through Altered History, Controlled Media, Corrupt Politicians and
            Ignorant and or Deceitful Ministers. (Since this is a Blog and not a
            Book, we will keep it simple and allow you to verify everything we state
            hereon).

            Yesterday’s Blog we also pointed out how the Book of Genesis is the book
            of genetics and from the beginning the Creator taught us the importance
            of “bloodlines” “DNA”. Within the early chapters of Genesis we are
            introduced to (2) distinct bloodlines, God’s and the Serpent. I am not
            speaking metaphorically. We see this played out in Cain and Abel,
            thereon and even to this day.

            SERPENT PEOPLE

            Over 80% of the people living in Palestine calling themselves Jews or
            Semitic People have NO TIES AT ALL to the land called Israel. They are
            NOT related to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob or any Semitic people. Their
            ancestors have never been in the Middle East/Palestine. They are of a totally different bloodline with unique DNA genetic markers to humans.
            They have preserved that bloodline until this day through inbreeding
            and marrying others of the same large tribe. They ARE NOT from the
            “lost tribes” of ancient Israel. If they are not who they say they are,
            then who are they? They are sons and daughters of East Europeans
            Khazars that converted to Judaism in around 740 AD. The Khazars were a
            large war like tribe driven out of Central Asia and settled in Eastern
            Europe between the Caspian Sea and Black Sea at the south of what today
            is called Russia. They formed the Khazarian Empire which stretched
            800,000 sq miles, becoming the largest nation of ancient Europe with
            nearly 20 million people. They did not convert to Judaism because they
            loved the Laws of God or wanted spirituality. Furthermore, they did not
            honor the Torah but they esteemed the Talmud (Book of Traditions) far
            above the Torah (OT Bible) as they yet do today. Before they were
            called “Jews”, they called themselves Serpent People–Today the
            Serpent People are known as the Khazarian Zionist Bolsheviks (KZB),
            better known as Ashkenazi Jews. This is a known fact that’s been kept
            hidden until the past two decades.

            More than 85% of today’s Jews are Ashkenazi Jews. Why is that
            important? Genetically Proven that means over 85% of the Jews ARE NOT
            SEMITES. They do not have Semitic genetic markers on their DNA,
            meaning, their ancestry does not come from Palestine/Middle East. Just
            to make this clearer: If you decide to sleep in the garage, does that
            make you a car?

            Jesus warned us of this great deception, “And I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” Revelation 2:9

            Ok, here it is again. 740 AD the Serpent People, Kingdom of Khazaria
            with a unique bloodline, whose main religion was Phallic worship
            converted to Judaism. Yes, the whole nation circumcised themselves
            (males) converted. They learned Hebrew and the rituals from a few local
            Semitic people living and passing through Khazaria. They proclaimed
            themselves as the “chosen people”, brain washed their children into
            believing this generation after generation. They gained more power,
            created banks, overthrew nations, created wars, infiltrated Christianity
            in Europe destroying it basically, created the Zionist Movement, spread
            across Europe to America. (The Talmud says, Jews must destroy the books
            of the Christians) Thus, we have today the Christian Church in bed
            with satan, thinking that it is her Bridegroom.

            WHAT IS A SEMITE?

            Before we get to that, here is something Jesus said about the last
            Church Age, Laodicea (our present day system). “You think you got it
            all together, you are politically correct, neither cold or hot on
            issues; you are quite the chameleon. You are celebrities, mega Churches,
            programs, and riches – you don’t see the need for true spirituality or
            anything more. Your ignorance and arrogant attitude makes me nauseous, I
            feel like vomiting. Can’t you see how miserable and shallow you are?
            No you can not, you are too blind and drunken with your deceptions and
            delusions…” Revelation 3:15-17 (Order of Melchizedek Version) Sadly,
            this is why many Christians call good, evil and evil, good; lacking
            discernment to see what is in plain sight.

            Semite comes from the name of Noah’s son SHEM. A real Semite is one
            that descended from Shem or Shemitic people and also some Hamites since
            Ham (another son of Noah) was the father of Canaan which is modern day
            Palestine. Semites are the Arabs, Palestinians, Hebrews, Iranians,
            Iraqis, Syrians, some North & East African Semites. (Did you notice,
            these are mostly all the nations controlled Media and religious leaders
            tell us to be afraid of, watch and hate) The languages are called
            Semitic languages. If I decided to learn a Semitic language would that
            make me Semitic? NO!! Could I rightfully call someone Anti- Semitic that
            criticized me because I learned a Semitic language? NO!! Could I
            rightfully accuse someone of anti-semitism if I have NO SEMITIC BLOOD,
            family from Poland, Russian, Germany, Hungary or America etc? NO!!
            Would I become a car by sleeping in the garage? Not likely! Then who
            are the real Anti- Semites?!! Would they not be the people always
            accusing others of anti-semitism, the Ashkenazi Jews?? Are they not the
            ones killing the real Semites (Palestinians) and using America to kill
            Semites, sons of Shem throughout the Arab/Muslim world? Do you see how screwed up and Deceive the world is?

            WHAT DOES A SEMITE LOOK LIKE???

            Remember Jesus said the Church was BLIND in the book of Revelation.
            Nearly 90% of the people in Israel, on TV, Lobbying in Washington DC,
            Managing Banks, Owning 96% of the Media -programing you how to think,
            dress, eat, believe, feel, who to hate, etc DO NOT LOOK SEMITIC. What
            you see is mostly Caucasians. [Ok let’s break the hypnotic spell, the
            illusion. Close your eyes, 5,4,3,2,1 – You’re AWAKE now]!

            Think, how does the Hamitic Semitic people in Palestine look? Dark
            skinned, dark eyes, dark hair, mostly curly hair – that’s what Semitics
            looked like for over 5000 years. That what Jesus looked like (not that
            it really matters). That’s sort of what the 10% of the “real Jews or
            Semitic” people would look like today.

            WHERE DID SEMITICS LIVE & WHERE DOES MOST SEMITIC LIVE TODAY? DOES THE PEOPLE LOOK CAUCASIAN THAT LIVE IN THESE AREAS?

            There are at least 30 Million Chinese that are Muslims, practicing
            Islam, please visualize the face and features of a Chinese person for a
            moment. (You did not know that because controlled media wants you to
            think Muslims look a particular way. This is to create a monster for
            you to fear and hate of a specific racial profile). What if all at once
            our Yellow skinned, bone straight black haired Chinese brethren decided
            they were Arabs? Yeah, just decided and told their kids also; maybe
            because it might be more profitable, the oil and other resources, the
            cool robes and turbans. What if they petition the UN and say they want
            to RETURN to Saudi Arabia their desert homeland and claim Mecca
            as their heritage because they have learned to pray in Arabic and quote
            the Quran? Would not the world be outraged?! Wouldn’t people think,
            but they don’t even look Arabic, how could they be Arabic? But yet the
            world and Christians are so BLIND they can not see this is EXACTLY what
            happened and yet is happening with the Serpent People – Khazarian as
            they build more Settlements that NOW call themselves Jews and claim
            Palestine as their homeland. Could this be the real reason behind the conflict in the Middle East that has spread to the whole world?

            Here is the question that bugged me for many years since I studied and research the Khazarian Empire conversion to Judaism –
            How could the Ashkenazi Jews that have no genetic ties to Abraham,
            Isaac, Jacob, Jesus or any Semitic people be the fulfillment of the
            prophecy of ancient Jews returning to their homeland? There is no
            way that could be so. The vast overwhelming majority of these people
            are “Jews” only in name with a disdain for the Torah, Jesus and real
            spirituality. Most of the younger generation actually think of being a
            Jew as a race, actually a superior race. Furthermore, how can one RETURN to some place where they nor their ancestors have never been?? (Don’t believe prophecy teachers, they are liars. Many are Ashkenazi in disguise or on the Zioni$t payroll).

            Isn’t it wonderful that the Creator is gracious to ALL, even a nation of
            terrorist imposters? Sadly, most of these people are also victims of
            their ancestors Greed and the Global Zionist Agenda. Most are just as
            deceived as the world. They were deceived by their parents (ancestors)
            and this well thought out plan of mass deception and conspiracy has gone
            on for hundreds of years. IS THERE A PROPHECY OF THIS SPECIFIC MASS DECEPTION IN THE BIBLE? YES!
            We will try to get to it tomorrow. Does this mean that those of us
            that know the truth should hate or feel superior in some way? No!
            However, we do have the obligation open the eyes of the blind, protest
            the killing of the real Semitic people of Palestine (Jesus’ relatives)
            and others. Most of all, stop lying and deceiving others by calling the
            Ashkenazi Jews (Khazarians) the rightful owners of Palestine. Pray for
            their salvation and that the worlds eyes and the Christians which are
            being blindly used by them to approve their terrorist acts eyes be
            opened.

            Here are some videos to help you in your study to show yourself a
            workman not ashamed rightly diving the words of TRUTH. Watch the 1st
            video and get the Free Book written by an Ashkenazi Jew revealing the
            deception of his people.

            ———————————————————

            Share this with all the Christians you know. Share it with your Pastors – more tomorrow.

  • rolltide

    Deon, Here is a link to a story, written by a man who was born a Jew and raised as a Jew. The name of the article is “Why I left Judaism”. http://www.realjewnews.com/?p=180 He is a born again Christian now and his ministry is to expose the evils of Judaism and Zionism. One one have to assume that he knows what he’s talking about!

    • dlundy1

      Thanks for the resource!

      I just read the article. It indeed contains interesting concepts that I am interested enough to investigate further.
      But although I do believe the fundamental message of the article — I think the writer should also provide more credible evidence to support their stance.

      Right now the reader is just being asked to “Take his word” for the information being provided — but it would be much more credible if he included excerpts from actual documents to strengthen his argument.

      But as I said, I am interested enough to begin my own research — and if everything checks out, I will write a post discussing it as well 🙂

      (God willing of course)

      • rolltide

        God bless you, Deon!! Thank you for being WILLING to take a look at this stuff. That’s more than I can say for most folks. Most would have already “banned” me for saying such things, even though I give mostly quotations from Jesus himself. For SOME REASON, most Christians just tend to pass right over these verses. (plus others) A scripture from Rev. comes to mind. ……something about adding to, or TAKING AWAY from the words of the BOOK!!!!?? They probably don’t even realize that’s EXACTLY what they’re doing. He said those things FOR A REASON, not just for the purpose of chastising the religious people in His day, but as a warning to future generations. He warned the disciples, and WE TOO are His disciples….to “beware the leaven of the Pharisees”.

        I would encourage you to go back to “Abide In Me” blog. (seashoremary) Myself and another commenter; “Jimmy” posted several links in our discussions which may be very helpful to you as far as research.

        The SINGLE MOST source, if I had to pick just one to convince you that ….even though Judaism CLAIMS the Torah and says it is their MAIN text; it would be this ..and it’s Jesus speaking; Matt. 5. And it’s really quite simple; If ANYONE REALLY believes the Word of God, whether it’s the first 5 chapters or the rest of it…ALL OF IT POINTS TO THE COMING OF THE MESSIAH – JESUS. If they REALLY believed what Moses wrote, they would be CHRISTIANS!!!! THEY ARE NOT!!! They reject Jesus as Messiah and have very evil things to say about Him TO THIS DAY!!! Nothing has changed!!! Jesus told them that ” I don’t accuse you; MOSES accuses you because He wrote of ME”!!!!! That RIGHT THERE tells you they DON’T believe the Torah, even though they claim it, the Talmud is their REAL MAIN TEXT!!! Just do a search…type in; “What the Talmud says about Jesus”. After all, every bit of the Holy Bible is about that One Man….Jesus. If they have it right, why are they STILL looking for the Messiah??? It is a very sad thing. My heart bleeds for them. I PRAY that they would ALL come to know the truth, but according to scripture, sadly, most will not. They will accept the WRONG guy!!

        Thank you, once again for having the courage to at least take this first step to the truth. Like I said before, most will NOT even go that far. That is also very sad. 2 Thes. chapter 2 comes to mind; God “gave them over to strong delusion that the will believe a lie because they loved NOT the truth”. Just my opinion, but I think the topic of “God’s Chosen One’s” and who they REALLY are is a BIG part of the strong delusion. There are MANY scriptures that tell us who the “chosen one’s” are and it’s NOT the one’s that most Christians think it is. Gal. 3:29 sums it up; “Ye who are IN CHRIST are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise”. That says it all, yet it is disregarded….WHY???

        Those who are IN CHRIST??? I’m pretty sure that would leave most “Jews” out, wouldn’t you say?? Abraham was the father of those with FAITH. He is called the “Father of Faith”, and if we believe and have faith in Jesus, WE ARE his seed. This is not a “physical” or “natural” family. It is a Spiritual family; the Family of God…..God’s Chosen; (Jesus speaking: ” My Kingdom is NOT of this world”)YOU and I, and also any other person, REGARDLESS of their nationality who believes on Him are His Chosen!!. What lies we have been told. How the TRUE Word of God has been TWISTED!!!

        Thank you Deon, God bless you!

        • dlundy1

          Thanks for your reply!

          I believe a Key take-away from all of this is the following…

          The Bible says clearly that all those who deny that Jesus as “The Christ’ — is the spirit of ANTI-Christ.

          Therefore the majority of MODERN Judaic beliefs are ANTI-christ.

          (1 John 2:22) “Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.”

          But we should also examine the next scripture very closely…

          (1 John 2:23) “Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.”

          this scripture tells us that all those who receive the son have received the father.

          With that being said, although some Christians may refer to themselves as “Judeo-Christian” — If they claim the name of Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior — they still belong to God.

          Therefore the only way they could be excluded from God’s grace is by rejecting Jesus (as many Jews have)

          “Judeo-Christian” is simply a title, no different from the words “Believer” or “Saint” — the only thing that really matters is what is BELIEVED.

          But I agree that it should be made known to Christians that there are some dangerous “Sects” of Judaism that actually contradict the Bible. I believe if we SHOW them this (in love) then they will see the need to differentiate themselves from this group.

          But even when sharing information like this with our brethren, It is important to do it within the “Love” of Christ. Therefore they will be willing to hear our words and receive the message that comes from God.

          In the writing “Judaism’s Strange Gods”, michael Hoffman immediately starts out by calling “Judeo-Christianity” a CULT.

          But how can anything involving the Death and resurrection of Christ be considered a “Cult”?

          We just read that anyone who RECEIVES the son receives the father

          (1 John 2:23) “Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:
          (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.”

          Some of our Christian brothers are unaware of some of the Pagan beliefs found in certain Judaic teachings — but to refer to them as “Cult” members simply because they called themselves Judeo-Christians is not only inaccurate, but it is offensive.

          Therefore because this message is not be shared in LOVE, many Christians are rejecting it.

          So lets continue to share the information, but lets do so in the Love of Christ.

          But I think it is important that we note that Judeo-Christianity is STILL Christianity at its CORE

          (No different from Methodist, Baptist, Non-denom., etc)

          so long as they believe that Jesus is the MESSIAH that died for the sins of humanity they are still included in the body of Christ.

          (Romans 10:9) That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

          (Romans 10:10) For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

          (Romans 10:11) For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

          (Romans 10:12) For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

          (Romans 10:13) For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

          Therefore If a person continues to call themselves Judeo-Christian, they will enter into the kingdom of heaven exactly as a Christian would — So long as they place their Faith In Jesus Christ who is the Author and Finisher of our faith 🙂

          • rolltide

            I hear what you’re saying. But I would ask you this: What about “Chrislam”? The blending of Islam and Christianity? Is it a cult? Probably not. Is it an abomination to God? I would think so.
            That said; Islam DOES say nice things about Jesus. They don’t think He was the Son of God; which still makes it “antichrist”; but they say He was a good man and a prophet. Not so about Judaism. They say HORRIBLE things about Him, as I’m sure you will find out in your research. True believers don’t find it very hard to see the error of Chrislam, and rightly so. The problem is that these SAME true believers have NO problem calling THEMSELVES “Judeo-Christian”. But the thing about it is, they think if we don’t go along with EVERYTHING that the Jews and Israel does, God is gonna WHACK THEM!!! They have had it instilled in them that Israel is God’s chosen people and “YOU DON’T MESS WITH ISRAEL”!!! They don’t realize that there is a “physical” Israel, (state) and then there’s the Israel of God; which is God’s Chosen. It’s NOT that little piece of land in the middle east and it’s not the so-called Jewish people. It’s you and me, and everyone, including Jew/Gentile that believes and has Faith in His Son – Jesus God told Abraham; “you will be the Father of MANY nations”.
            The Judeo-Christian thing is just the tip of the iceberg. If you choose to research these things you will find that this is the mother-lode of ALL conspiracies. You will find that upwards of 85% of Jewry in the State of Israel, who call themselves “AshkeNAZI” Jews are NOT Jews AT ALL, but do lie!!! (The Holy Bible, and also Jesus speaking in Rev.2:9 and 3:9 uses the very SAME language and has a name for those people; “those who say they are Jews, but are NOT, but do lie” – the ‘synaGOGue of satan’)
            “Ashkenaz” is listed in Gen. 10 as the first grandson of JAPHETH. Biblical Jews came from the line of SHEM, thus the name Semite. So how can one call themselves Ashkenazi Jews???? It’s an oxymoron. You can’t be both!!!! Yet over 85% of so-called Jewry who say, “This land is our; God gave it to US”!!!! are NOT bloodline Jews at all, they are IMPOSTERS They say they are Jews, but they ARE NOT, but do lie!!! They, by the money and influence of the Rothschild’s in 1948 became a state and started inhabiting the Holy Land, killing the Palestinian’s, who had been there for thousands of years, taking over their land, and forcing them to live in a walled in area in inhumane conditions., all the time saying: “this land is ours, God gave it to us”!!! The Palestinian’s have more “Jewish” blood in them than these Askenazi “Jews”!!!
            These Ashkenazi’s are from eastern Europe and part of the old Soviet Bloc, known as the old Khazarian Empire. This is exactly the SAME area as the Bible says that the clan of Japheth settled in after they exited the ark. Japheth’s clan went north. If you read the family of Japheth in Gen. chapter 10, some interesting names come up…such as; Ashkenaz, MAGOG, (hmmmm) Meshesh, Tubal, etc….. Ring a bell??? Yes, the SAME bunch that Ez. 38 & 39 says will INVADE THE HOLY LAND IN THE LAST DAYS!!!
            Most folks think that is a prophecy that is YET to be fulfilled. NO; that prophecy began in 1897 continued on til Israel became a state in 1948 and continues even now. Israel is mostly comprised of MAGOG now!!! (Ashkenazi Jews) The synaGOGue of satan.
            So you see, this Judeo-Christian thing is just a speck. This thing GOES DEEP!!! A few years ago, I was where most Christians are today, I would set someone straight with a quickness that said ANYTHING negative about the Jews or Israel. I have spent MUCH time and effort to get to the truth. IT ROCKED MY LITTLE WORLD!!!!! Scriptures that left me scratching my head now make sense. Learning these things will make you do one of two things – 1) when your paradigm starts rockin’ & reelin’ you stop and try to forget that you were wrong and had fallen for lies…..your prideful ego won’t let you admit you were duped. 2) you swallow your pride, admit to yourself and God that you fell for it, and never REALLY searched these things out for yourself, and you start digging for MORE TRUTH. I chose #2, and that has been a while ago, and there’s more yet to be learned.
            With God Almighty as my Witness, I FEAR HIM, WITH ALL DUE REVERENCE. I FEAR MISUNDERSTANDING HIS WORD OR MISLEADING OTHERS. I DESIRE TO KNOW HIM BETTER, UNDERSTAND HIM MORE AND LOVE HIM MORE. I CANNOT lie to myself about these things. To misunderstand these things is to misinterpret His Word. WE HAVE BEEN LIED TOO!!! BOTTOM LINE!!! I just want to wake people up as to what’s REALLY going on. Most people shut me down. That’s one reason I am so thankful that you say you’re gonna do some research. I will tell you now, you WILL be shocked beyond recognition. You will have to decide between those 2 options that I mentioned, like it or not. If you don’t love truth, I suggest you don’t even start!!! But if you do, prepare yourself to be blasted and scourged by your brother’s and sister’s. Prepare to be called every name in the book! (including antisemetic, racist, and hater) It’s up to you. I hope you make the right choice. God bless you, and I will be praying for you!

          • dlundy1

            Thanks for your response,

            I don’t think that example is quite “Balanced” when comparing Judeo-Christianity to Chrislam.

            Here is why…

            Chrislam denies that Jesus is the Christ, they instead substitutes that he was one of God’s greatest prophets, but this is no different from Islam. Therefore Chrislam is simply another name for Islam that they are trying to drive into the Church.

            I agree that Islam denies that Jesus is the Christ, that is why this religion is ANTI-CHRIST.

            Judeo-Christianity is not so, they DO believe that Jesus is the Christ and the SON of God.

            Therefore According to the Bible — they belong to GOD.

            (1 John 2:22) “Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the
            Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.”

            (1 John 2:23) “Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father:
            (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.”

            Therefore in order for the Bible to be TRUE — this statement made by John MUST be true.

            But I completely agree regarding the Christians that believe they must follow Jewish Customs — this could eventually lead them into some of the pagan teachings. But I believe this is why Christians should study the Bible thoroughly.

            The apostle Paul spoke of those men who try to bind the gentiles with the Jewish customs in order to be saved. The bible clearly states that he that is a jew is one INWARDLY.

            (Romans 2:28) For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:

            (Romans 2:29) But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

            And John stated earlier that God had the power to turn even STONES into the descendants of Abraham!

            (Matthew 3:5) Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan,

            (Matthew 3:6) And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins.

            (Matthew 3:7) But when he saw many of the Pharisees and Sadducees come to his baptism, he said unto them, O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?

            (Matthew 3:8) Bring forth therefore fruits meet for repentance:

            (Matthew 3:9) And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

          • rolltide

            You said: “Judeo-Christianity is not so, they DO believe that Jesus is the Christ and the SON of God.”
            You have that half right. True CHRISTIANITY believes that Jesus is the Christ and the Son of God.
            Judaism, on the other hand DOES NOT, so how is it that this title “Judeo-Christian” came to be???
            I’ll tell you….IGNORANCE, and people buying into the lie that the Jews are the “Chosen One’s.
            Let me ask you a question. What is your opinion of Martin Luther? Do you think he was a man of God? As a young man, he wanted to better acquaint himself with the Jews and learn more about their religion. After spending years studying Judaism, he wrote a book about what he learned. The name of the book; ” The Jews and Their Lies”. Does that tell you anything? A simple search; typing, “quotes of Martin Luther on Judaism” should suffice….that is …if the title itself isn’t telling enough!! Anyone who digs ….just a little bit, who loves Jesus should want to separate this “Judeo” from their associated “religion”. Isn’t Jesus’ words that He told us about their religion enough to make us want NO PART in it?? Why is that SO HARD to understand?
            http://www.texemarrs.com/032014/evangelical_heresy.htm

          • dlundy1

            But lets narrow down what we are discussing because we both are going to deep in order to reach a similar conclusion.

            The Point that I am trying to make is this…

            ANY ONE who believes that Jesus is the Son of God, and receives him as their Lord and Savior — belongs to God.

            (1 John 4:1) “Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

            (1 John 4:2) Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

            (1 John 4:3) And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.”

            ** Do you Agree with this, Or Disagree? **

          • rolltide

            Yes, I agree. But you are missing my point. The “Christian” part of the term “Judeo- Christian” ABSOLUTELY DOES believe that Jesus is the Son of God. And of course, I have no problem with that.
            But now, when you look at the “Judeo” part of it, it is ABSOLUTELY antichrist. So the point I’m trying to make is this; why would Christians even attach that name “Judeo” to their ‘title’??? What does light and dark have in common? NOTHING! You have the ONLY TRUE religion, if you want to call it that, attaching an antichrist religion to it’s name!! How can this be?? It’s heresy!!
            If this makes sense to ANY TRUE believer, the ONLY logical explanation I can come up with is that they are TOTALLY nieve about what Judaism teaches. I would HOPE that is the explanation!!! And….I would hope that if they DID know, they wouldn’t call themselves that EVER AGAIN!!!
            Do you think God approves of a religion that rejects His Son??? Do you think He approves of His own people attaching themselves to a religion that does, be it Islam, Judaism, Hinduism, or ANY OTHER false religion??? I don’t understand why I am having to lay all of this out!!! It should be a no-brainer!!! What am I missing here??

          • dlundy1

            I am confident that I understand what you are saying.

            But I think you are missing what I was trying to display.

            Lets Break this Down:

            1.Judeo-Christianity may not be the best title for a born again Christian — AGREED.

            2. All those who place their faith in Christ belong to God — AGREED.

            We agree on all points. But the point that I am trying to make is this — A Christian calling themselves “Judeo-Christianity” will not hinder their ability to enter into the kingdom of God so long as they place their faith in Christ.

            Therefore if it is not detrimental to their Salvation — We should not “Beat them Up” over it. Instead we should simply show them the origins behind it and let the Holy-Spirit to convict them of it.

            I believe in this situation, we should apply the Apostle Paul’s teachings on MEAT…

            Some Christians thought it was a sin to eat certain meats — while some thought it was ok.

            But the conclusion that Paul came to was this…

            (Romans 14:1) Welcome those who are weak in faith, but do not argue with them about their personal opinions.

            (Romans 14:2) Some people’s faith allows them to eat anything, but the person who is weak in the faith eats only vegetables.

            (Romans 14:3) The person who will eat anything is not to despise the one who doesn’t; while the one who eats only vegetables is not to pass judgment on the one who will eat anything; for God has accepted that person.

            (Romans 14:4) Who are you to judge the servants of someone else? It is their own Master who will decide whether they succeed or fail. And they will succeed, because the Lord is able to make them succeed.

            (Romans 14:5) Some people think that a certain day is more important than other days, while others think that all days are the same. We each should firmly make up our own minds.

            (Romans 14:6) Those who think highly of a certain day do so in honor of the Lord; those who will eat anything do so in honor of the Lord, because they give thanks to God for the food. Those who refuse to eat certain things do so in honor of the Lord, and they give thanks to God.

            (Romans 14:7) We do not live for ourselves only, and we do not die for ourselves only.

            (Romans 14:8) If we live, it is for the Lord that we live, and if we die, it is for the Lord that we die. So whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord.

          • rolltide

            Yes, Deon; I agree with you on all of that. My intention is NOT to bash anyone. My purpose was to shed light on just what Judaism is. We all know what Islam is. We all know what New Age is. We all know enough about most of the popular “religions to know that we don’t want to be associated with them. But most Christians will call themselves”Judeo-Christians”, and not give it a second thought. Why do you think that is? It’s because we’ve been lied to, not ONLY by the ‘usual suspects’ but by people we call our spiritual mentors, pastors, and religious leaders…..whether knowingly, or unknowingly.
            I was, for most of my life duped. I was raised in church and was taught that whatever the “Jews” do, and whatever Israel does is fine, and we are to BLESS them…no matter what. Then I started having questions about how could it POSSIBLY be the right thing to bless and condone some of the things that the State of Israel does.
            One of the “biggies'” for me that put me in the mode to find some answers was this. The United States, over the last several decades, some would say beyond that; has not missed out on one single opportunity to spit in the face of God. Would you agree? This was while I still had no idea about the things I now know. So here I was, having questions in the back of my mind about Israel and the Jews, after being raised to “tow the line” about that subject. Then I see that the US is doing EVERYTHING it possibly can to dis-invite God in every area, institution, government, schools, universities,…even in most of our churches. At the same time, I saw the US blessing everything Israel does, right or wrong. I see dual citizens of the US and Israel put into the highest offices in the land….and it got me to thinking even more asking myself this question: (While still of the mindset that we are to bless and honor Israel) “Here we are, a nation that has abandoned God and spit in his face at every opportunity, YET here we are fighting their wars, sending them money we don’t have, putting in dual citizens to the high offices whose FIRST loyalty is to Israel, and “blessing” them to no end, DID WE GET THIS ONE RIGHT???????!!!!!!!! That is what started me on this journey, and I really didn’t know what I was getting myself into!! Sometimes I wonder; if I hadv’e known, would I still ahve dug into it, or would I just have left it alone?? I’ll be honest with you, sometimes I regret that I ever questioned. Because once you learn of all these things, you’ll never look at things the same again! This thing goes SO deep, you have no idea.
            But mostly, I’m glad I did, because now, scripture that didn’t quite “add up”, as I had been taught now falls into place. I have a fairly good overview of prophecy, which is something I have been eager to understand since my youth. I have realized that the satanic agenda that we are up against has infiltrated EVERY AREA of our lives….including our religious beliefs.
            I learned that the Rothschild’s, who by the way are Ashkenazi Jews were responsible for the State of Israel being born in 1948, not God. I learned that God gave the Jews the land, with conditions which they haven’t met. He tells them in Deut. 28 the blessings they will have ………IF!!!! He also tells them what would happened…..IF. That IF is whether the were in OBEDIENCE to Him……OR NOT. He exiled them because they did NOT obey, and continue to this day to be in disobedience. God exiled them in 70 AD. But Rothschild’s, with all their money and power defied God’s judgement, and set up a homeland for their “Jewish Utopia New World Order” which they want eventually to rule the world from Jerusalem, of course with their “Messiah”. (antichrist)
            The Rothschild’s put their own Family insignia on the Israeli flag, the 6 pointed star, the hexagram. (It isn’t the ‘star of David, that’s another lie) Rothschild is known as the “King of Israel”. Eventually, he wants it called “House of Rothschild”. This is the ‘synagogue of satan’, and most Christians are blessing it, because we have been lied to from the pulpits.
            Can you see the dangerous possibilities here? This could lead to MANY being deceived into following the WRONG GUY; just like the Jews will do. (for the most part) It is UNREAL how deep all of this goes.
            So NO, I’m not so upset about the believers calling themselves Judeo-Christian, I’m upset about the thing as a whole, and I realize you don’t know what I’m talking about. But if you just start somewhere, looking into certain things, it’s gonna lead you into more things. Things that everyone NEEDS to know, but will not even ask questions, in MOST cases. They just “tow the Zionist line” like good little sheeple, like I used to. Little do they know, it could cost them their lives and more importantly, their souls. That is why I’m so ticked off. I try to share these things with ANYONE who will listen and start a fire in them to get to the truth. That’s my intention. My heart BREAKS that people are so blind!!!
            If I can say something, post a link, or ask a question on your’s or seashoremary, or any other place that will cause someone start investigating, that might be one person that is spared. I care enough about people that being called names and being shut down and ridiculed matters NOT in comparison to planting seeds of truth that MIGHT save just one
            Sorry so long-winded, but these things I’ve been talking about are just the tip of the iceberg., and I want to help people, even if it leaves me feeling shunned, and singled out.
            As a friend of mine, who also is aware of all this would say, “when someone’s house is on fire, you don’t go roast marshmallows with them ……you go screaming; YOUR HOUSE IS ON FIRE”.

          • dlundy1

            STATEMENT: One of the “biggies'” for me that put me in the mode to find some answers was this. The United States, over the last several decades, some would say beyond that; has not missed out on one single opportunity to spit in the face of God. Would you agree?

            REPLY: During the last Decade, yes I would agree.

            STATEMENT:Then I see that the US is doing EVERYTHING it possibly can to dis-invite God in every area, institution, government, schools, universities,…even in most of our churches. At the same time, I saw the US blessing everything Israel does, right or wrong.

            REPLY: This is party true. But It is not the US Government that blesses Israel, It is the Christians in AMERICA that stand with Israel. Therefore to keep from upsetting the people, the government backs Israel. Not to mention that Israel is the Only DEMOCRATIC nation in the Middle East — So we being called the “Land of the Free” have no choice but to stand with them.

            STATEMENT: I learned that the Rothschild’s, who by the way are Ashkenazi Jews were responsible for the State of Israel being born in 1948, not God.

            REPLY: your statement is contradictory to the Bible. God promised the Jews that HE would bring them back into their own land. (Although it is possible that he used them as a tool)

            (Amos 9:14) And I will bring again the captivity of my people of
            Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and
            they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also
            make gardens, and eat the fruit of them.

            (Amos 9:15) And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of
            their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.

            Here we see that It was GOD who promised to bring them back into their LAND. (remember, we must ALWAYS let the Bible be the Final Authority.)

            STATEMENT: if you just start somewhere, looking into certain things, it’s gonna lead you into more things.

            REPLY: We must be careful what we are lead into, although I agree with some of the points that you made about the “Doctrines of Man” that are taught in some Judaic teachings — It seems as if some of the other teachings that you have found were sprinkled with some anti-semitic ideologies.

            Think about This…

            God told the Jews that after their exile, he would bring them back into their own land. And he did in 1960, there are only a remnant of them left. If the Nation of Israel’s rebirth is not the jewish people — then that would mean that God lied about bringing them back into their own land.

            Today — There is a WAR going on between the Jews and ALL THOSE AROUND them. This was another prophecy that JESUS foretold.

            (Luke 21:20) And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.

            (Luke 21:21) Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and
            let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that
            are in the countries enter thereinto.

            All the Muslim Nations of the Mid-East are going to rise against Israel in the Last day — and God will fight for them. (this too is foretold).

            STATEMENT: I try to share these things with ANYONE who will listen and start a fire in them to get to the truth. That’s my intention. My heart BREAKS that people are so blind!!!

            REPLY: Sometimes we have good intentions, but our good intentions are misdirected. The Apostle Paul killed MANY Christians in his ZEAL FOR GOD. But as we both know — his zeal was in his confusion because he thought he knew something that he did not.

            More Thinking:

            – It is true that the Anti-christ is going to take over Jerusalem, but many bible scholars believe that this man will be the MUSLIM messiah. You should Checkout a man by the name of WALID SHOEBAT who was converted from Islam to Christianity — he does an excellent teaching on the subject.

            But As we both agree, he that is a Jew is one INWARDLY — But we can rest assured that those who are in Israel are there because GOD placed them there (using whatever method he saw fit)

          • rolltide

            Your REPLY: This is
            party true. But It is not the US Government that blesses Israel, It is
            the Christians in AMERICA that stand with Israel. Therefore to keep from
            upsetting the people, the government backs Israel. Not to mention that
            Israel is the Only DEMOCRATIC nation in the Middle East — So we being
            called the “Land of the Free” have no choice but to stand with them.

            MINE: Since WHEN does
            it matter to the
            government WHAT “WE THE PEOPLE” think?; especially
            Christian people? How is it that this is the ONLY issue that Zionist
            Evangelical Christians and the government seem to be in agreement on?? Everything else, they are complete opposite. HMMMM Why
            is it that?
            “Jews”, who make up less than 2% of the population, hold the highest
            positions in OUR government? Some of them dual-citizens? What if JUST
            ONE
            government official was a dual citizen of…let’s say IRAN???? Our
            government is SATURATED with Israeli dual citizens!! Who do you think they are most loyal to???

            Your REPLY: your statement is contradictory to the Bible. God promised the Jews that HE would bring them back into their own land.

            MINE: Would
            you agree that according to Gen.10 that “Askenazi” was of the clan of Japheth, in fact, Japheth’s first listed grandson?

            Genesis 10

            King James Version (KJV)

            10 Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood.

            2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.

            3 And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.

            So…….are we in agreement that Ashkenazi WAS NOT from the clan of SHEM?? (Semite)

            Ashkenazi “Jews” make up more than 85% of Jewry in Israel today.

            SO….is
            it fair to say that they ARE NOT Semite??? (from the line of Shem??)
            Come on now!! Be honest. Look at the Bible text!!!

            SO….If God brought these Ashkenazi’s to the land, wouldn’t you say He made a mistake??? IF INDEED THIS WAS HIS DOINGS!!!!!!

            You
            can only come to two different scenarios here: 1) God made a mistake and
            brought the WRONG people to the land; or 2) There’s a WHOLE LOT of
            humans including Christians who have mis-interpreted Bible prophecy!

            Which do YOU think it is?? I KNOW what I think!!!

            Let me remind you what JESUS said:
            He is saying that the POPULAR way isn’t necessarily the RIGHT way, and
            the interpretation that you seem to have is the same that I USED to
            have, and is the way MOST Evangelicals believe. So it is
            DEFINITELY the POPULAR belief. But is it correct??? There isn’t ALWAYS
            safety in numbers!!!

            Matthew 7:14

            King James Version (KJV)

            14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

            As far as the Amos text, how can you be so sure that is not a FUTURE event??…….As in
            the same time that Jesus was referring to when He said, “you shall not see me again until you say; blessed is
            He that cometh in the Name of the Lord”???

            Doesn’t
            satan counterfeit the things of God?? Do you think he doesn’t have his
            minion human servants, who have enough money and power to pull off some
            counterfeit biblical prophecies? What was the FIRST thing that Jesus
            told His disciples to to beware of when they asked Him about the
            end of the age in Matt.24? “See that no man DECEIVE you”. He warned
            about DECEPTION REPEATEDLY in this chapter. This is a HUGE deception and
            I wouldn’t be surprised if it were NOT the “strong delusion” that EVEN
            the ELECT
            would fall for………THEY
            ARE!!!!!!!!

            Your REPLY: Sometimes we have good intentions, but our good intentions are misdirected.

            Mine:
            Who’s to say that it is mine that is misdirected. I used to “tow the
            popular line”. I know VERY WELL the popular belief, it used to be mine
            and could argue with the best of them to defend it…..UNTIL I dug deep,
            and YES the Holy Bible is the BOTTOM LINE for me. If it doesn’t line up
            with the Bible, out the window it goes. Do I need to quote
            Jesus again about the straight and narrow way, and FEW there be that find it. That tells me that the MAJORITY is wrong!!!

            YOUR RELPY: It is true that the Anti-christ is going to take over Jerusalem, but
            many bible scholars believe that this man will be the MUSLIM messiah.
            You should Checkout a man by the name of WALID SHOEBAT who was converted
            from Islam to Christianity — he does an excellent teaching on the
            subject.

            MINE: I am familiar with Shoebat but I’d rather believe what Daniel the prophet said:

            Daniel 11:37

            New King James Version (NKJV)
            37 He shall regard neither the God
            of his fathers.
            Who
            are “his fathers”????? They are Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the father’s
            of faith. That tells me he will be a Jew. How else could it be that the
            Jews except him as the Messiah. Do you REALLY think they would except a
            Muslim??? I would think that would be the VERY FIRST “smell test” for
            them, wouldn’t you????

            As far as your calling me antisemetic,…….if the people I am referring to were REAL Jews, it might be that my comments are antisemetic. I am talking about “those they say they are Jews, but ARE NOT, that DO LIE”!!!!! (Rev. 2:9) I am talking about FAKE JEWS…..the imposters that occupy of the land of Israel, from the clan of Japheth, from the land of MAGOG; the “synagogue of satan”. I DO NOT BLESS THEM AS MOST CHRISTIANS DO!!!!

          • rolltide

            Oops, I left one out!

            You SAID:REPLY: We must be
            careful what we are lead into, although I agree with some of the points
            that you made about the “Doctrines of Man” that are taught in some
            Judaic teachings — It seems as if some of the other teachings that you
            have found were sprinkled with some anti-semitic ideologies.

            ME:
            “Sprinkled with some anti-semetic ideologies”?? What I am about to post
            is probably the harshest things I’ve posted YET! Low and behold, they
            came from the mouth of JESUS. And this is only from one chapter in the
            Gospels; Matt.23. There are MANY MORE! Would you call HIS words
            “anti-semitic ideology”? Would He be guilty of a “hate crime” today?
            Would Evangelicals scourge Him for not blessing the Jews?…………PROBABLY!!

            JESUS UPBRAIDS THE CHURCH LEADERS

            There are many examples of Jesus
            upbraiding the Church leaders for their gross sins [selections from Matthew 23]:

            “But WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees,
            HYPOCRITES… FOR YOU SHUT UP THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN AGAINST MEN…

            …THEY BIND HEAVY BURDENS and GRIEVOUS to be
            borne, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but will not move them with ONE OF THEIR
            FINGERS

            WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees,
            HYPOCRITES… you DEVOUR WIDOW’S HOUSES… you shall receive the greater
            damnation.

            WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees,
            HYPOCRITES…

            WOE unto you, ye BLIND GUIDES…

            You FOOLS AND BLIND…

            WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES!
            You… have omitted… JUDGMENT, MERCY, and FAITH…

            You BLIND GUIDES, which strain out a gnat, and
            SWALLOW A CAMEL.

            WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees,
            HYPOCRITES… within they are full of EXTORTION AND EXCESS.

            You BLIND PHARISEES…

            WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees, HYPOCRITES! You
            are FULL OF DEAD MEN’S BONES, and ALL UNCLEANESS… and HYPOCRISY and
            INIQUITY…

            WOE unto you, Scribes and Pharisees,
            HYPOCRITES!… you are the children of them which KILLED the prophets. FILL YOU UP then
            the measure of your fathers.

            You SERPENTS, you GENERATION OF SNAKES… you
            KILL AND CRUCIFY… you SCOURGE in your synagogues… Behold your house is left unto
            you DESOLATE”!!

            That’s some HEAVY DUTY “anti-semitism” isn’t it?? Was HE wrong?

          • dlundy1

            STATEMENT Since WHEN does
            it matter to the government WHAT “WE THE PEOPLE” think?; especially Christian people?

            REPLY : since they want to keep the people from turning against them. Some things they can get away with, but this is not one.They don’t want a massive civil unrest until the economy collapses.

            STATEMENT How is it that this is the ONLY issue that Zionist
            Evangelical Christians and the government seem to be in agreement on?? Everything else, they are complete opposite. HMMMM

            REPLY : I am not a Zionist Christian, yet I support Israel. What is your definition of Zionist? But this is just speculation.

            STATEMENT why is it that? “Jews”, who make up less than 2% of the population, hold the highest
            positions in OUR government?

            REPLY : There are Jews who live in this nation who were born here, therefore it is nothing strange about them holding a high position just like it is nothing strange about an african american being the president.

            STATEMENT Some of them dual-citizens? What if JUST
            ONE government official was a dual citizen for…let’s say IRAN???? Our
            government is SATURATED with Israeli dual citizens!! Who do you think they are most loyal to???

            REPLY : Again, this is speculation — but With that said, Iran is NOT an ALLY to the United States, they are an adversary. Therefore of course they would not be permitted to have dual citizenship.

            Israel however is an ALLY to the United States — therefore why shouldn’t they be able to be dual citizens? This is no secret, there are many Canadians who live in America but are Dual citizens. Why do you feel that Israel is against America? They rely on us heavily — but we are Sister nations.

            STATEMENT Would you agree that according to Gen.10 that “Askenazi” was of the clan of Japheth, in fact, Japheth’s first listed grandson?

            REPLY : I agree that “Ashkenaz” (not askenazi) was the Son of Gomer and Gomer was the son of Japheth.

            STATEMENT So…….are we in agreement that Ashkenazi WAS NOT from the clan of SHEM?? (Semite)

            REPLY : Yes, we are.

            STATEMENT Ashkenazi “Jews” make up more than 85% of Jewry in Israel today.

            REPLY : This is speculation, you would need to provide credible evidence to support this ideology.

            STATEMENT SO….is it fair to say that they ARE NOT Semite??? (from the line of Shem??)

            REPLY : No, Its not fair to say because this claim is not supported by Evidence. Although I have not yet performed research, I am fairly certain that it is not accurate. If Jews only make up 2% of Earth’s population — and if 85% of that remaining 2% of Jews are NOT JEWS then that means the number of Jews is Nearly ZERO and will eventually reach 0 in a few decades. And that would mean that the Bible is INACCURATE because God failed to preserve a remnant of his people. If the Jews aren’t back in THEIR land — but instead FAKE jews are in the land, then that means God has not fulfilled his word.

            Understand what I’m saying?

            STATEMENT SO….If God brought these Ashkenazi’s to the land, wouldn’t you say He made a mistake??? IF INDEED THIS WAS HIS DOINGS!!!!!!

            REPLY : Remeber, you based that on the assumption that 85% of Jews are ashkenazi-Jews which is not proven.

            But to answer you — Yes, that would be a mistake — This is why I believe the JEWS in the land are ACTUAL Jews.

            STATEMENT As far as your calling me antisemetic

            REPLY : This is false, I did not call you anti-semitic. I simply stated that some of your beleifs are similar to those held by those who are antisemitic.

            STATEMENT That’s some HEAVY DUTY “anti-semitism” isn’t it?? Was HE wrong?

            REPLY : Jesus wasn’t saying that because they were Jews, he was saying that because they were HYPOCRITES who tried to hide the truth from God’s people. Therefore No- that wasn’t anti-semitism. But you are directing your concept at Jews in GENERAL. That is the difference.

            STATEMENT I am talking about “those they say they are Jews, but ARE NOT, that DO LIE”!!!!!

            REPLY We agree that there are some Fake Jews, These “Fake” jews are the Rothschilds, Builderburgers, and other illuminati bloodlines. But I absolutely would not go as far as to say that 85% of the jews in Israel are apart of this bloodline.

            You should do some research on a fellow named “John Todd” who left the Illuminati and found Christ — he talks about these fake Jews and their plans for Israel and the Entire World.

          • rolltide

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            This from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashkenazi_Jews

            “It is estimated that in the 11th century Ashkenazi Jews composed only three percent of the world’s Jewish population,
            while at their peak in 1931 they accounted for 92 percent of the
            world’s Jews. Immediately prior to the Holocaust, the number of
            Ashkenazi Jews stood at approximately 16.7 million.[20] Statistical figures vary for the contemporary demography of Ashkenazi Jews, oscillating between 10[1] and 11.2[2] million. Sergio DellaPergola in a rough calculation of Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews, implies that Ashkenazi make up around 74%
            of Jews worldwide.[21] Other estimates place Ashkenazi Jews as making up about 75% of Jews worldwide.[22] Ashkenazi Jews constitute around 35–36% of Israel’s total population, or 47.5% of Israel’s Jewish population.”[23][24]

            Here
            it says close to half of Jewry in Israel is
            Ashkenazi. We’ve already established the fact (according to the FINAL
            AUTHORITY, the
            Bible) that
            Ashkenaz was the grandson of Japheth, NOT SHEM!!! Thus they are NOT
            descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, from whom the Semite nation
            came. The Semites, TRUE JEWS came from the linage of SHEM. The Bible
            CLEARLY says that Ashkenaz was the grandson of Japheth; YET these
            descendants of Japheth call themselves Ashkenazi Jews!!! That is
            IMPOSSIBLE!!! You cannot be BOTH. If you are descended from Ashkean, you
            aren’t a Jew., and if you’re truly a Jew, Japtheth is NOT your
            ancestor……SHEM would be!!! Is it so hard to figure this out?

            Although
            here in Wikipedia says just about half of the “Jews” in Israel are
            Ashkenazi, I have read book after book, which I cannot show you that
            says upwards of 85% of them are, including every prime minister they’ve
            had since 1948. Take a look at that
            Wikipedia paragraph. It
            says Ashkenazi Jews make up 74% of Jews WORLDWIDE!!!! Do these
            numbers tell you anything?
            Even if it were just half, as this says, isn’t
            that disturbing enough?? Half are imposters!!!! God didn’t promise the land to fake Jews!!!

            How can people RETURN to place they’ve NEVER BEEN????….Please!!!

            This is also from Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Israeli_Ashkenazi_Jews I’ll copy/paste JUST the Politicians.

            Politicians

            Chaim Weizmann – first President of Israel (1949–52)

            Yitzhak Ben-Zvi – first elected/second president President of Israel (1952–63)

            David Ben-Gurion – first Prime Minister of Israel (1948–54, 1955–63)

            Moshe Sharett – prime minister (1954–55)

            Levi Eshkol – prime minister (1963–69)

            Golda Meir – prime minister (1969–74)

            Yitzhak Rabin – prime minister (1974–77, 1992–95); Nobel Peace Prize (1994) (assassinated November 1995)

            Menachem Begin – prime minister
            (1977–83); Nobel Peace Prize (1978)

            Yitzhak Shamir – prime minister (1983–84, 1986–92)

            Shimon Peres – President of Israel (2007–); prime minister (1984–86, 1995–96); Nobel Peace Prize
            (1994)

            Benjamin Netanyahu – prime minister (1996–99), (2009–); was minister of finance; Likud party chairman

            Ehud Barak – prime minister (1999–01)

            Ariel Sharon – prime minister (2001–06)

            Ehud Olmert – prime minister (2006–09); former mayor of Jerusalem

            Rehavam Zeevi – founder of the Moledet party (assassinated October 2001)

            Yossi Beilin – leader of the Meretz-Yachad party and peace negotiator

            Yosef Lapid – former leader of the Shinui party

            Teddy Kollek – former mayor of Jerusalem

            I think it is safe to say that Israeli leadership, from the beginning; 1948, has been those who say
            they are Jews but ARE NOT, but DO LIE!!!

            Do
            you know that most of these people listed changed their last names to
            sound “more Jewish”???!!! Do I need to go find a link for that too? Very
            well; Here you go! Famous Jews who changed their names:

            Famous Jews who changed their names

            This 13′ 11″ video was published by ladyknowz on May 1, 2012: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zS7aMGByxY

            Publisher’s comments:

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            The
            following are famous Jews who changed their names. The list is
            actually only the tip of the ice burg of the number of Jews who change
            their names.
            Joan Crawford
            Winona Ryder
            Charles Bronson
            Cary Grant
            Leslie Howard
            Buddy Hackett
            Bob Dylan
            Larry King
            Woody Allen
            Joan Rivers
            Mary Hart
            Shelley Berkley
            Natasha Lyonne
            Robby Benson
            Sean Kanan
            Brad Garrett
            Arianne Zucker
            Ione Skye
            Lindsay Sloane
            Samantha Harris
            Selma Blair
            Geraldo Rivera
            Jerry Lewis
            Michael Ian Black
            Gene Wilder
            George Burns
            Howard Cosell
            Dinah Shore
            Jason Alexander
            Barbara Hershey
            Jack Benny
            Kirk Douglas
            Judy Garland
            Judy Holliday
            Lorne Green
            Jon Stewart
            Joyce Brothers
            Mel Brooks
            Rodney Dangerfield
            Milton Berle
            Tony Curtis
            Tony Randall
            Walter Matthau
            Sumner Murray Redstone
            Michael Landon
            Ann Landers
            Abigail Van Buren (Dear Abby)
            Danny Kaye
            Jill St. John
            Shelley Winters
            Lauren Bacall
            Michael Oren
            Boney James
            Ron Owenns
            Michael Savage
            Kenny G
            Albert Brooks
            Peter Coyote
            Elliott Gould
            Steve Lawrence
            Jerry Douglas
            Anson Williams
            Frank Oz
            Lee Grant
            Lainie Kazan
            Robert Trebor
            Estelle Harris
            Dyan Cannon
            Annie Sprinkle
            Jane Seymour
            Benjamin Netanyahu
            Ehud Barak
            Ariel Sharon
            Levi Eshkol
            Moshe Sharett
            David Ben Gurion
            Golda Meir
            Shimon Peres
            Menachem Begin
            Yitzhak Shamir

            You don’t seem to understand that it is NOT REAL Jews that I have a problem with. I am NOT racist. I am NOT anti-semetic, and I do NOT hate ANYONE.
            But lies are lies….I don’t care WHO you are!!!! And Jesus warned us in
            the end times to beware of deception. This is a BIG one!!! And almost
            all Christians are vexed by this deception. Believe me, I’ve done my homework and still continue, have YOU checked these things out? The Holy Bible is ALWAYS the filter I use.

            You asked: “What is your definition of Zionism”. Here you go. Zionism is man’s attempt to do what God said HE WOULD DO!!!! Including establishing HIS PEOPLE in the land. According to a conservative Wikipedia; half of them now….including all their leaders are FAKE JEWS!!!! Did God do that???!!! I DON’T THINK SO!!! God don’t make mistakes!

            Now….let me ask you a question. Who is the synagogue of satan? Who do you say fits that definition that Jesus gave in Rev. 2:9 and 3:9?

            You also asked; “Why do you feel that Israel is an enemy”?

            We are their PUPPETS. We are their “useful idiots”! Take for instance B. Netanyahu quote:
            “When we squeeze all we can out of the United States, they can dry up and blow away”!!!

            We fight their wars, they don’t send their OWN to die, or do their killing. That has been true since the days of Jesus. They demanded Barabas be released and demanded that somebody else kill Jesus!!! Nothing has changed!!!
            Where do you think they get all of their sophisticated weaponry? Who GIVES them billions of $$$$ every year???
            Well……The US is BROKE and our military is being disabled, so…..as far as they are concerned, they HAVE squeezed just about all they can out of us, AND WE ARE DRYING UP QIUCKLY!!!

            Oh, and one more thing, I am VERY familiar with John Todd. It is a shame that he was more than likely “disappeared” in one capacity or another.
            You can call them Illuminati, Globalists, New World Order, Bilderberg, Club of Rome, Counsil of 300, The Elite, or what ever other name you might hear; but all these are just fronts for two words; “THE ZIONISTS”!
            Who controls Hellywood, the media, and music industry, and just about all BIG corporations?? I’ll give you ONE guess. I could provide links for that too, but my hand is tired. I really don’t feel that any of this info is getting through to you anyway.
            I don’t know what else I could say to you to at least make you ask some questions! I’m not asking you to believe me. I will be VERY satisfied if you and any of your readers would just go type in some of this stuff and FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF!!! I DID!!!

          • dlundy1

            Statement: This from Wikipedia

            Reply: Wikipedia would not be considered a credible source simply because I could literally log into the website and change that Content.

            But note that an “Estimate” is simply a “Guess” — but I would be interested to know where that information came from. But as I said earlier, I will conduct research on the topic.

            Statement: here in Wikipedia says just about half of the “Jews” in Israel are
            Ashkenazi, I have read book after book, which I cannot show you that
            says upwards of 85% of them are, including every prime minister they’ve
            had since 1948.

            Reply: What is the Name of the Book? I will be sure to check it out in my research.

            Statement: Believe me, I’ve done my homework and still continue, have YOU checked these things out? The Holy Bible is ALWAYS the filter I use.

            Reply: It is good that the Bible is always your filter, this will ensure that we can always come to a single conclusion regarding these topics. But in response to your research comment, I have not looked into the topic — but I do acknowledge that some of the things you are saying contradicts scripture. So since we both have a common ROOT (which is the Bible) — we can come to agree that the bible is always correct.

            EX: You stated that God did NOT put the Jews in Israel, it was the Satan worshipping Rothschilds. But I showed you that God said that HE would bring the jews back into their land. (in Amos)

            But although I believe you have done your research, I would like to check out the credibility of the sources you have gotten your info from. (Wikipedia is not considered ‘Credible’).

            Statement: According to a conservative Wikipedia; half of them now….including all their leaders are FAKE JEWS!!!! Did God do that???!!! I DON’T THINK SO!!! God don’t make mistakes!

            Reply: again, wikipedia is not credible. In order for something to check out — you should find at LEAST 3 other sources that “Backs” your primary source. When you want someone to adopt your belief, you CAN’T just expect them to “Take your word” for it — but you MUST provide UNDENIABLE evidence that supports your stance.

            Right now you are making some GROUND-SHATTERING claims but only giving me Wikipedia (which is not crediblee) as your source.

            Statement: Who is the synagogue of satan? Who do you say fits that definition that Jesus gave in Rev. 2:9 and 3:9?

            Reply: Those who have chosen to worship Satan. lets just say the “Illuminati” for simplicity’s sake.

            Statement: We are their PUPPETS. We are their “useful idiots”!

            Reply: This is an opinion.

            Statement: Netanyahu quote:
            “When we squeeze all we can out of the United States, they can dry up and blow away”

            Reply: Cite your Source.

            Statement: The US is BROKE and our military is being disabled, so…..as far as they are concerned, they HAVE squeezed just about all they can out of us, AND WE ARE DRYING UP QIUCKLY

            Reply: Its not the Jews who are destroying this nation, it is the Synagogue of Satan “Illuminati”. God is using as a tool to CHASTEN this nation for turning against him after he blessed us so mightily. It is Bible Prophecy

            Statement: Who controls Hellywood, the media, and music industry, and just about all BIG corporations?? I’ll give you ONE guess.

            Reply: The Elites — some of them are Jews, some of them are not. But you cannot classify this organization as JEWS in general. That is what Adolph Hitler did before he placed them in the concentration camps for “Disposal”.

            Think about This

            If the Jews have been running the world all along — What 11 million people did Adolph hitler Kill??

            It just doesn’t make much sense when you think about it critically.

            Statement: I don’t know what else I could say to you to at least make you ask some questions! I’m not asking you to believe me. I will be VERY satisfied if you and any of your readers would just go type in some of this stuff and FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF!!! I DID!!!

            Reply: You can’t believe everything you hear. But I will look into it. Please provide any sources you have used to come to this conclusion. I will check them out and verify them. But I can’t express how important it is to verify your sources.

            Some of the Things you are saying sounds as if it could be contradictory to our Christian Belief.

          • rolltide

            I HIGHLY
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            recently on Amazon. I will find you more links to other resources. My
            computer, right now is acting strange and won’t save my draft to go get
            others to put in this one post, so I will do them one at a time….I
            guess. It seems that “someone” might not like what I’m talking about. More on it’s way soon.

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          • rolltide

            Here is a sample of the online PDF (free) book “Synagogue of Satan” by Andrew Hitchcock
            http://www.conspirazzi.com/e-books/hitchcock-synagogue-satan.pdf

            The Synagogue of Satan 740-1818.

            The Khazarian King,
            King Bulan
            , decided in order to protect themselves against attack, the
            Khazarian people must convert to one of these faiths, but which one? If they converted to the
            Muslim faith they would risk attack by the Christians and if they converted to the Christian faith
            they would risk attack by the Muslims.
            He had an idea. There was another race that he was aware were able to deal with both the Muslims
            and the Christians either side of him, predominantly in matters of trade. A race which also dealt
            with Khazarians in the same manner. That race was the Jews. King Bulan decided if he instructed
            his people to convert to Judaism he could keep both the Muslims and the Christians happy, as they
            were both already willing to trade with the Jews, so this is what he did.
            King Bulan was right. He would live to see his country unconquered, his people convert to Judaism
            enthusiastically and adopt the principles of the most holy Jewish book, the
            Talmud
            . There are
            many things the king would not live to see, however.
            He would not live to see his Asiatic race of converts to Judaism, one day represent 90% of all the
            Jews on the planet, and call themselves
            Ashkenazi
            Jews, when in fact they were not Jews, but
            simply an Asiatic race of people who converted to the Jewish religion, whilst still continuing to
            speak the Khazarian language of
            Yiddish
            , totally different to the language of
            Hebrew
            .
            He would not live to see his people turn to the descendants of a man, far more powerful than him,
            who would be born just over 1,000 years later in Germany, a man named Bauer, who would spawn
            the Rothschild dynasty.
            He would not live to see this dynasty usurp the wealth of the world through deception and intrigue,
            which they would finance through the vast riches they accumulate as they usurp the wealth of the
            world by gaining control of the world

            s money supply.
            He would not live to see his people demand a homeland for themselves in Palestine as their
            birthright, and ensure every Prime Minister there from its inception in 1948 is an Ashkenazi Jew,
            even though the true homeland of the Ashkenazi Jews, Khazaria, is his kingdom, some 800 miles
            away.
            And he would not live to see his people fulfil bible prophecy, as the,

            Synagogue of Satan.

          • rolltide

            I have only read the first 2 chapters of this one so far. He explains how in 126 BC, the Edomites, Esau; meaning “red” were the Amelikites and they were given the option to be “absorbed” into Jewry, or be killed by the Macabees. Their “leader” was called “AGAG”; which is the same as calling one a president, or in Russia, a czar. Agag was the leader of the Amelikites, it is also “GOG”. In the Book of Numbers 24:7, the Septuagint, which translated Bible scriptures by Jewish scholars, from Hebrew to Greek, actually uses the word “GOG” instead of “Agag”. Again, it was Jews that translated it.They weren’t Jews but they got absorbed into Jewry. Very interesting so far. It is called “Matrix” of Magog” http://www.amazon.com/The-Matrix-Gog-Khazars-Destroy-ebook/dp/B00JKNRHOU
            Flavius Josephus, in his writings records the 126BC event. So here non-Jews; in fact, the Edomites became “Jews”!!!! Were they REAL Jews? NO!! They were forced to convert to Judaism and be circumcised or be killed….so they became JEWS!!!! OUTWARD Jews!!!!

            REAL JEWS are Jews INWARDLY, meaning this is a SPIRITUAL NATION!! NOT a physical nation. There are VERY FEW bloodline “Jews” left. Jesus told them in Matt.23 that their house was left to them DESOLATE. That’s EXACTLY what happened.

          • rolltide

            This is an online resource….VERY well researched. This is the link to part one. At the end of part one, you can click on part two. If you REALLY want to know the history, I HIGHLY suggest you read one and two. http://www.apfn.org/thewinds/library/khazars.html

          • dlundy1

            Answer These Question:

            1. Did God Put the Jews Back in Israel?
            2. Should we Go to War with the Jews?
            3. Is the Bible Free from Error?
            4. If the Jews aren’t in Israel, Where are they?
            5. If the Jews aren’t in Israel, Doesn’t that mean God Lied?

          • rolltide

            Answer These Question:

            1. Did God Put the Jews Back in Israel? Not yet.
            2. Should we Go to War with the Jews? Not unless we want the whole world destroyed. Look up “Operation Samson Project”
            3. Is the Bible Free from Error? Yes…depending on the version.
            4. If the Jews aren’t in Israel, Where are they? Scattered
            5. If the Jews aren’t in Israel, Doesn’t that mean God Lied? No…Ez. 39 says “HE” will bring them back ….AFTER Gog/Magog, which is happening and has been since 1948 and perhaps beyond that…1897.

            But would He bring the synagogue of satan back by mistake? NO…This is Zionism, which is MAN’S ATTEMPT to do what GOD said HE would do. Scripture has been mis-interpreted.

          • dlundy1

            You have an interesting ideology, but time will tell whether the Jews are actually Jews.

            Do you believe that the Land that Israel is occupying actually belongs to the Palestinians?

          • rolltide

            I believe they have more right to be there than these imposters do. After all, they HAVE been there for thousands of years. That’s my opinion, but here’s my FINAL ANSWER:

            Psalm 24

            King James Version (KJV)

            24 The earth is the Lord’s, and the fulness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.

            2 For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods.

            3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the Lord? or who shall stand in his holy place?

            4 He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.

            5 He shall receive the blessing from the Lord, and righteousness from the God of his salvation.

            6 This is the generation of them that seek him, that seek thy face, O Jacob. Selah.

            7 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.

            8 Who is this King of glory? The Lord strong and mighty, the Lord mighty in battle.

            9 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.

            10 Who is this King of glory? The Lord of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah.

            Verse 1 is my answer, with much emphasis on verses 3&4

          • rolltide

            Here’s ANOTHER resource: http://www.atam.org/Israel2.html

            (Web Blog)

            ISRAEL IN PROPHECY – Part 2

            JULY 6, 2011

            Our Intent is to show the Israel in prophecy based on the Bible- history
            and science, and show why there seems to be so much confusion there
            that affects Global Stability & Peace.

            [Warning! All sacred cows are subject to being joyfully and lovingly
            slaughtered as an act of LOVE during this and the next several blogs]. :
            – )

            We ended yesterdays Blog with some provocative questions that many in
            Christianity due to the strong delusion never seem to ask themselves or
            others.

            WHO ARE THOSE PEOPLE OCCUPYING THE LAND OF PALESTINE TODAY THAT HAVE HI-JACKED THE NAME ISRAEL?

            In unison this question would be answered by about 90% of Christians, “They are God’s chosen people”, “They are the lost tribes of Israel”, “They are the descendants of Abraham, Issac and Jacob”.
            If you thought or answered either of the (3) answers or anything
            similar – You Are Wrong, move to the end of the line and try again. You
            are repeating or thinking the Deceitful Lies that the public has been
            fed through Altered History, Controlled Media, Corrupt Politicians and
            Ignorant and or Deceitful Ministers. (Since this is a Blog and not a
            Book, we will keep it simple and allow you to verify everything we state
            hereon).

            Yesterday’s Blog we also pointed out how the Book of Genesis is the book
            of genetics and from the beginning the Creator taught us the importance
            of “bloodlines” “DNA”. Within the early chapters of Genesis we are
            introduced to (2) distinct bloodlines, God’s and the Serpent. I am not
            speaking metaphorically. We see this played out in Cain and Abel,
            thereon and even to this day.

            SERPENT PEOPLE

            Over 80% of the people living in Palestine calling themselves Jews or
            Semitic People have NO TIES AT ALL to the land called Israel. They are
            NOT related to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob or any Semitic people. Their
            ancestors have never been in the Middle East/Palestine. They are of a totally different bloodline with unique DNA genetic markers to humans.
            They have preserved that bloodline until this day through inbreeding
            and marrying others of the same large tribe. They ARE NOT from the
            “lost tribes” of ancient Israel. If they are not who they say they are,
            then who are they? They are sons and daughters of East Europeans
            Khazars that converted to Judaism in around 740 AD. The Khazars were a
            large war like tribe driven out of Central Asia and settled in Eastern
            Europe between the Caspian Sea and Black Sea at the south of what today
            is called Russia. They formed the Khazarian Empire which stretched
            800,000 sq miles, becoming the largest nation of ancient Europe with
            nearly 20 million people. They did not convert to Judaism because they
            loved the Laws of God or wanted spirituality. Furthermore, they did not
            honor the Torah but they esteemed the Talmud (Book of Traditions) far
            above the Torah (OT Bible) as they yet do today. Before they were
            called “Jews”, they called themselves Serpent People–Today the
            Serpent People are known as the Khazarian Zionist Bolsheviks (KZB),
            better known as Ashkenazi Jews. This is a known fact that’s been kept
            hidden until the past two decades.

            More than 85% of today’s Jews are Ashkenazi Jews. Why is that
            important? Genetically Proven that means over 85% of the Jews ARE NOT
            SEMITES. They do not have Semitic genetic markers on their DNA,
            meaning, their ancestry does not come from Palestine/Middle East. Just
            to make this clearer: If you decide to sleep in the garage, does that
            make you a car?

            Jesus warned us of this great deception, “And I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” Revelation 2:9

            Ok, here it is again. 740 AD the Serpent People, Kingdom of Khazaria
            with a unique bloodline, whose main religion was Phallic worship
            converted to Judaism. Yes, the whole nation circumcised themselves
            (males) converted. They learned Hebrew and the rituals from a few local
            Semitic people living and passing through Khazaria. They proclaimed
            themselves as the “chosen people”, brain washed their children into
            believing this generation after generation. They gained more power,
            created banks, overthrew nations, created wars, infiltrated Christianity
            in Europe destroying it basically, created the Zionist Movement, spread
            across Europe to America. (The Talmud says, Jews must destroy the books
            of the Christians) Thus, we have today the Christian Church in bed
            with satan, thinking that it is her Bridegroom.

            WHAT IS A SEMITE?

            Before we get to that, here is something Jesus said about the last
            Church Age, Laodicea (our present day system). “You think you got it
            all together, you are politically correct, neither cold or hot on
            issues; you are quite the chameleon. You are celebrities, mega Churches,
            programs, and riches – you don’t see the need for true spirituality or
            anything more. Your ignorance and arrogant attitude makes me nauseous, I
            feel like vomiting. Can’t you see how miserable and shallow you are?
            No you can not, you are too blind and drunken with your deceptions and
            delusions…” Revelation 3:15-17 (Order of Melchizedek Version) Sadly,
            this is why many Christians call good, evil and evil, good; lacking
            discernment to see what is in plain sight.

            Semite comes from the name of Noah’s son SHEM. A real Semite is one
            that descended from Shem or Shemitic people and also some Hamites since
            Ham (another son of Noah) was the father of Canaan which is modern day
            Palestine. Semites are the Arabs, Palestinians, Hebrews, Iranians,
            Iraqis, Syrians, some North & East African Semites. (Did you notice,
            these are mostly all the nations controlled Media and religious leaders
            tell us to be afraid of, watch and hate) The languages are called
            Semitic languages. If I decided to learn a Semitic language would that
            make me Semitic? NO!! Could I rightfully call someone Anti- Semitic that
            criticized me because I learned a Semitic language? NO!! Could I
            rightfully accuse someone of anti-semitism if I have NO SEMITIC BLOOD,
            family from Poland, Russian, Germany, Hungary or America etc? NO!!
            Would I become a car by sleeping in the garage? Not likely! Then who
            are the real Anti- Semites?!! Would they not be the people always
            accusing others of anti-semitism, the Ashkenazi Jews?? Are they not the
            ones killing the real Semites (Palestinians) and using America to kill
            Semites, sons of Shem throughout the Arab/Muslim world? Do you see how screwed up and Deceive the world is?

            WHAT DOES A SEMITE LOOK LIKE???

            Remember Jesus said the Church was BLIND in the book of Revelation.
            Nearly 90% of the people in Israel, on TV, Lobbying in Washington DC,
            Managing Banks, Owning 96% of the Media -programing you how to think,
            dress, eat, believe, feel, who to hate, etc DO NOT LOOK SEMITIC. What
            you see is mostly Caucasians. [Ok let’s break the hypnotic spell, the
            illusion. Close your eyes, 5,4,3,2,1 – You’re AWAKE now]!

            Think, how does the Hamitic Semitic people in Palestine look? Dark
            skinned, dark eyes, dark hair, mostly curly hair – that’s what Semitics
            looked like for over 5000 years. That what Jesus looked like (not that
            it really matters). That’s sort of what the 10% of the “real Jews or
            Semitic” people would look like today.

            WHERE DID SEMITICS LIVE & WHERE DOES MOST SEMITIC LIVE TODAY? DOES THE PEOPLE LOOK CAUCASIAN THAT LIVE IN THESE AREAS?

            There are at least 30 Million Chinese that are Muslims, practicing
            Islam, please visualize the face and features of a Chinese person for a
            moment. (You did not know that because controlled media wants you to
            think Muslims look a particular way. This is to create a monster for
            you to fear and hate of a specific racial profile). What if all at once
            our Yellow skinned, bone straight black haired Chinese brethren decided
            they were Arabs? Yeah, just decided and told their kids also; maybe
            because it might be more profitable, the oil and other resources, the
            cool robes and turbans. What if they petition the UN and say they want
            to RETURN to Saudi Arabia their desert homeland and claim Mecca
            as their heritage because they have learned to pray in Arabic and quote
            the Quran? Would not the world be outraged?! Wouldn’t people think,
            but they don’t even look Arabic, how could they be Arabic? But yet the
            world and Christians are so BLIND they can not see this is EXACTLY what
            happened and yet is happening with the Serpent People – Khazarian as
            they build more Settlements that NOW call themselves Jews and claim
            Palestine as their homeland. Could this be the real reason behind the conflict in the Middle East that has spread to the whole world?

            Here is the question that bugged me for many years since I studied and research the Khazarian Empire conversion to Judaism –
            How could the Ashkenazi Jews that have no genetic ties to Abraham,
            Isaac, Jacob, Jesus or any Semitic people be the fulfillment of the
            prophecy of ancient Jews returning to their homeland? There is no
            way that could be so. The vast overwhelming majority of these people
            are “Jews” only in name with a disdain for the Torah, Jesus and real
            spirituality. Most of the younger generation actually think of being a
            Jew as a race, actually a superior race. Furthermore, how can one RETURN to some place where they nor their ancestors have never been?? (Don’t believe prophecy teachers, they are liars. Many are Ashkenazi in disguise or on the Zioni$t payroll).

            Isn’t it wonderful that the Creator is gracious to ALL, even a nation of
            terrorist imposters? Sadly, most of these people are also victims of
            their ancestors Greed and the Global Zionist Agenda. Most are just as
            deceived as the world. They were deceived by their parents (ancestors)
            and this well thought out plan of mass deception and conspiracy has gone
            on for hundreds of years. IS THERE A PROPHECY OF THIS SPECIFIC MASS DECEPTION IN THE BIBLE? YES!
            We will try to get to it tomorrow. Does this mean that those of us
            that know the truth should hate or feel superior in some way? No!
            However, we do have the obligation open the eyes of the blind, protest
            the killing of the real Semitic people of Palestine (Jesus’ relatives)
            and others. Most of all, stop lying and deceiving others by calling the
            Ashkenazi Jews (Khazarians) the rightful owners of Palestine. Pray for
            their salvation and that the worlds eyes and the Christians which are
            being blindly used by them to approve their terrorist acts eyes be
            opened.

            Here are some videos to help you in your study to show yourself a
            workman not ashamed rightly diving the words of TRUTH. Watch the 1st
            video and get the Free Book written by an Ashkenazi Jew revealing the
            deception of his people.

            ———————————————————

            Share this with all the Christians you know. Share it with your Pastors – more tomorrow.

  • rolltide

    Here is a story from “Times of Israel” that’s rather shocking. “Leaked report acknowledges “Jews are in fact Khazarians”.
    (Ashkenazi)
    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/leaked-report-israel-acknowledges-jews-in-fact-khazars-secret-plan-for-reverse-migration-to-ukraine/

  • rolltide

    Here is a story from “Times of Israel” that’s rather shocking. “Leaked report acknowledges “Jews are in fact Khazarians”.
    (Ashkenazi)
    http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/leaked-report-israel-acknowledges-jews-in-fact-khazars-secret-plan-for-reverse-migration-to-ukraine/

  • rolltide

    The timing couldn’t have been better to receive this article in my inbox, since we are discussing these very things. Notice all the pictures shown in this article showing all the Jewish controlled media outlets. And checkout all the different Zionist lobbyist groups who just love to give “cookies” to all the nice little kiddo’s in Congress, and have plenty of them to go around!http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2014/06/04/understanding-israels-corrosive-influence-on-western-democracy/

    By the way, did you look at the article that I posted in the comment above this one from the “Times of Israel” about Ashkenazi Jews? This is the Times of Israel speaking….NOT ME!!!

  • rolltide

    The timing couldn’t have been better to receive this article in my inbox, since we are discussing these very things. Notice all the pictures shown in this article showing all the Jewish controlled media outlets. And checkout all the different Zionist lobbyist groups who just love to give “cookies” to all the nice little kiddo’s in Congress, and have plenty of them to go around!http://www.veteransnewsnow.com/2014/06/04/understanding-israels-corrosive-influence-on-western-democracy/

    By the way, did you look at the article that I posted in the comment above this one from the “Times of Israel” about Ashkenazi Jews? This is the Times of Israel speaking….NOT ME!!!

  • rolltide

    We have covered MUCH ground tonight, Deon!!! But TRUST ME, we have only scratched the surface. We haven’t even touched on the 7 “Noahide Laws”!!!
    If you will go back to seashoremary’s blog; where we actually were introduced; you will find more links to Noahide Law AND MORE.
    I strongly urge you to look into all these things. It is a TASK, believe me, I KNOW!!! But you MUST ask yourself, “do I want truth or lies”? Do you think avoiding possible “strong delusion” is worth the effort? I would say, it IS worth it!!
    I hope I have provided you with some things that will cause you to dig for yourself. Don’t believe me or ANY OTHER PERSON!!! Ask God to lead you through all of this, I did, because it SURELY DID shake up my little paradigm, but through it all, I have grown CLOSER to God. It has made me HUMBLY aware that I need Him SO MUCH. He is our ONLY Hope. I will be praying for you, as I want ONLY truth for YOU, myself, and everyone else; especially those that call themselves TRUE BELIEVER’S. God bless you, Deon

    • dlundy1

      thanks! I will indeed be looking into this further.

      Be blessed brother

  • rolltide

    We have covered MUCH ground tonight, Deon!!! But TRUST ME, we have only scratched the surface. We haven’t even touched on the 7 “Noahide Laws”!!!
    If you will go back to seashoremary’s blog; where we actually were introduced; you will find more links to Noahide Law AND MORE.
    I strongly urge you to look into all these things. It is a TASK, believe me, I KNOW!!! But you MUST ask yourself, “do I want truth or lies”? Do you think avoiding possible “strong delusion” is worth the effort? I would say, it IS worth it!!
    I hope I have provided you with some things that will cause you to dig for yourself. Don’t believe me or ANY OTHER PERSON!!! Ask God to lead you through all of this, I did, because it SURELY DID shake up my little paradigm, but through it all, I have grown CLOSER to God. It has made me HUMBLY aware that I need Him SO MUCH. He is our ONLY Hope. I will be praying for you, as I want ONLY truth for YOU, myself, and everyone else; especially those that call themselves TRUE BELIEVER’S. God bless you, Deon

    • dlundy1

      thanks! I will indeed be looking into this further.

      Be blessed brother

  • rolltide

    I think….before I bid you “Ado”; there’s one more basic seed of truth I need to sow.

    There
    is NO “sacred cow” as far as the Zionists are concerned. Their
    cancerous tenticles have tainted every single area of our lives. Nothing
    has been “off-limits” to them.

    One
    of the most important areas they felt needed to be altered was our
    fundamental Christian mindset. So, in the last half of the 19th century,
    this was a priority, but a monumental task!! How would they do THIS??? I
    will give you a basic over-view of how they successfully accomplished
    this task over time to hy-jack sound Biblical doctrine and turn most of
    the Body of Christ in the US into a spineless, cowardly,
    sniveling bunch of obese, adult babies; who would never put down the
    milk bottle and pacifier, and mature into strong, adult “meat-eaters” At
    the bottom of this comment, I will provide links that go into a little
    more detail about the things I touch on. This plan, by no surprise will
    trace back to the ‘usual suspects; the “synagogue of satan”:

    Meet
    JACOB SCHIFF; ambassador of the Rothschild’s. Schiff was given four
    tasks and sent on his merry way to America, basically a strong,
    God-fearing nation. I will only talk about one of those tasks….the
    task I’ve already described. This was a HUGE task,….how
    would he do it? It couldn’t be done overnight.

    Schiff found himself in Boston, where he and five other Zionist “Jews” collaborated. They were called the “Secret Six”.

    Meanwhile,
    there was another man, if you can call him that, who would later
    be-friend another Zionist, Communist “Jew”; a wealthy Attorney from NYC
    named SAMUEL UNTERMEYER. (who later black-mailed Woodrow Wilson into
    making sure he nominated the first Zionist
    Jew as a Supreme Court judge) Meet Cyrus I. Scofield.

    Scofield,
    From Kansas City; who CLAIMED to be a born again Christian, abandoned
    his wife and two children, having affairs with two other women; one of
    which he would eventually marry. Even though he was able to do so, he
    NEVER gave his original wife and children a SINGLE DIME of support.

    He was a low-life swindler, cheat, fraudster, and just overall piece of CRAP who
    claimed to be a Christian. (By their fruits you will know them?)

    For
    swindling railroad workers, he was sentenced to a six-month prison
    term. While serving this term in Kansas, he was researching another
    piece of crap in Europe named John Nelson Darby, another Rothschild
    puppet who was spreading a “new theology”. One that was symapthetic to
    the goals of Zionism, from a “Christian” perspective. He was also was
    preaching a new concept; a pre-trib rapture. Scofield was taking notes,
    some of which would end up in his finished work; the “SCOFIELD REFERENCE
    BIBLE”, again while he was serving a prison term.

    After
    serving his term, he would find himself in NYC, where he would become
    friends with Samuel Untermeyer. Untermeyer saw to it that Scofield was
    welcomed into the “Lotus Club”; an “elite” clique. Untermeyer learning
    of the writings of Scofield, introduced him to the “Secret Six” from
    Boston. Remember, Jacob Schiff, who was given the task to contaminate
    Christianity was a member of this group. Schiff and the Secret Six
    meeting Scofield was a match made in HELL!! They had the finances needed
    for Scofield to continue his heretical research and writing, they also,
    after it’s completion, had the money for getting it published. The
    SCOFIELD REFERENCE BIBLE. But this wasn’t enough.

    Bible
    colleges and seminaries were springing up all over the country. With
    their money, influence, and power, they saw to it that this book of
    heresy was the primary tool of virtually all of these institutions.
    Future religious leaders, pastors, and laity were programmed by this
    blasphemy, and the cemetaries…I mean seminaries regurgitated this
    Zionist propaganda and “new doctrine” heresy all across the US; into
    most all Evangelical churches and pulpits, and this is the “milk” that
    the fat babies in the pews have been fed for decades. It is no surprise
    that the once strong Body of Christ has become weak, ineffective, and
    neutered. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! Thank you Cyrus Scofield, Jacob Schiff,
    Samuel Untermeyer, and company!! For the task you were given, you
    did a WONDERFUL job. I’m sure you were rewarded handsomely!!! But you
    have some MORE rewards awaiting you by the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY!!!! You
    chose the riches and pleasures of this world over the TRUE RICHES of
    Heaven…………..NOW……here we are. LOOK AT THE BODY OF CHRIST.
    FAT BABIES BUT, SPIRITUALLY ANOREXIC!! GOD, help us to WAKE
    UP!!!! (links below)

    I
    have given you a LOT of info. What you do with it is up to you. I pray
    these seeds of truth have fallen on good ground. My job is to plant. It
    is up to God to water, nurture, and bring the increase. He will summon
    His angels to separate the wheat from the chaff, as they grow together.
    The wheat will be saved, but the chaff will be BURNED. There’s a LOT of
    houses on fire, and some are roasting marshmallows, some even like a
    little graham cracker with it and make s’mores!!!

    I
    hope and pray I haven’t ‘cast pearl to swine’. If you are….TRULY, an
    Ambassador of Christ, I would take down your profile picture. I’d put
    one up that didn’t “subtly” display the triple-six hand gesture! Just
    sayin’………Some of us STILL have eyes to see!!!!

    LINKS:

    Christian Zionism -(Scofield)

    http://home.earthlink.net/~bobseller1/id86.html

    Christian Zionism

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  • rolltide

    I think….before I bid you “Ado”; there’s one more basic seed of truth I need to sow.

    There
    is NO “sacred cow” as far as the Zionists are concerned. Their
    cancerous tenticles have tainted every single area of our lives. Nothing
    has been “off-limits” to them.

    One
    of the most important areas they felt needed to be altered was our
    fundamental Christian mindset. So, in the last half of the 19th century,
    this was a priority, but a monumental task!! How would they do THIS??? I
    will give you a basic over-view of how they successfully accomplished
    this task over time to hy-jack sound Biblical doctrine and turn most of
    the Body of Christ in the US into a spineless, cowardly,
    sniveling bunch of obese, adult babies; who would never put down the
    milk bottle and pacifier, and mature into strong, adult “meat-eaters” At
    the bottom of this comment, I will provide links that go into a little
    more detail about the things I touch on. This plan, by no surprise will
    trace back to the ‘usual suspects; the “synagogue of satan”:

    Meet
    JACOB SCHIFF; ambassador of the Rothschild’s. Schiff was given four
    tasks and sent on his merry way to America, basically a strong,
    God-fearing nation. I will only talk about one of those tasks….the
    task I’ve already described. This was a HUGE task,….how
    would he do it? It couldn’t be done overnight.

    Schiff found himself in Boston, where he and five other Zionist “Jews” collaborated. They were called the “Secret Six”.

    Meanwhile,
    there was another man, if you can call him that, who would later
    be-friend another Zionist, Communist “Jew”; a wealthy Attorney from NYC
    named SAMUEL UNTERMEYER. (who later black-mailed Woodrow Wilson into
    making sure he nominated the first Zionist
    Jew as a Supreme Court judge) Meet Cyrus I. Scofield.

    Scofield,
    From Kansas City; who CLAIMED to be a born again Christian, abandoned
    his wife and two children, having affairs with two other women; one of
    which he would eventually marry. Even though he was able to do so, he
    NEVER gave his original wife and children a SINGLE DIME of support.

    He was a low-life swindler, cheat, fraudster, and just overall piece of CRAP who
    claimed to be a Christian. (By their fruits you will know them?)

    For
    swindling railroad workers, he was sentenced to a six-month prison
    term. While serving this term in Kansas, he was researching another
    piece of crap in Europe named John Nelson Darby, another Rothschild
    puppet who was spreading a “new theology”. One that was symapthetic to
    the goals of Zionism, from a “Christian” perspective. He was also was
    preaching a new concept; a pre-trib rapture. Scofield was taking notes,
    some of which would end up in his finished work; the “SCOFIELD REFERENCE
    BIBLE”, again while he was serving a prison term.

    After
    serving his term, he would find himself in NYC, where he would become
    friends with Samuel Untermeyer. Untermeyer saw to it that Scofield was
    welcomed into the “Lotus Club”; an “elite” clique. Untermeyer learning
    of the writings of Scofield, introduced him to the “Secret Six” from
    Boston. Remember, Jacob Schiff, who was given the task to contaminate
    Christianity was a member of this group. Schiff and the Secret Six
    meeting Scofield was a match made in HELL!! They had the finances needed
    for Scofield to continue his heretical research and writing, they also,
    after it’s completion, had the money for getting it published. The
    SCOFIELD REFERENCE BIBLE. But this wasn’t enough.

    Bible
    colleges and seminaries were springing up all over the country. With
    their money, influence, and power, they saw to it that this book of
    heresy was the primary tool of virtually all of these institutions.
    Future religious leaders, pastors, and laity were programmed by this
    blasphemy, and the cemetaries…I mean seminaries regurgitated this
    Zionist propaganda and “new doctrine” heresy all across the US; into
    most all Evangelical churches and pulpits, and this is the “milk” that
    the fat babies in the pews have been fed for decades. It is no surprise
    that the once strong Body of Christ has become weak, ineffective, and
    neutered. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! Thank you Cyrus Scofield, Jacob Schiff,
    Samuel Untermeyer, and company!! For the task you were given, you
    did a WONDERFUL job. I’m sure you were rewarded handsomely!!! But you
    have some MORE rewards awaiting you by the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY!!!! You
    chose the riches and pleasures of this world over the TRUE RICHES of
    Heaven…………..NOW……here we are. LOOK AT THE BODY OF CHRIST.
    FAT BABIES BUT, SPIRITUALLY ANOREXIC!! GOD, help us to WAKE
    UP!!!! (links below)

    I
    have given you a LOT of info. What you do with it is up to you. I pray
    these seeds of truth have fallen on good ground. My job is to plant. It
    is up to God to water, nurture, and bring the increase. He will summon
    His angels to separate the wheat from the chaff, as they grow together.
    The wheat will be saved, but the chaff will be BURNED. There’s a LOT of
    houses on fire, and some are roasting marshmallows, some even like a
    little graham cracker with it and make s’mores!!!

    I
    hope and pray I haven’t ‘cast pearl to swine’. If you are….TRULY, an
    Ambassador of Christ, I would take down your profile picture. I’d put
    one up that didn’t “subtly” display the triple-six hand gesture! Just
    sayin’………Some of us STILL have eyes to see!!!!

    LINKS:

    http://www.911-strike.com/christian-zionists.htm

    http://home.earthlink.net/~bobseller1/id86.html